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bin/59983: "expandtab" behaves counter-intuitively (and different from vim)
>Number: 59983
>Category: bin
>Synopsis: "expandtab" behaves counter-intuitively (and different from vim)
>Confidential: no
>Severity: serious
>Priority: medium
>Responsible: bin-bug-people
>State: open
>Class: change-request
>Submitter-Id: net
>Arrival-Date: Sun Feb 08 16:15:01 +0000 2026
>Originator: Jason Thorpe
>Release: NetBSD 10.99.10 (but 11 is the same)
>Organization:
Formatting Fanatics Anonymous
>Environment:
NetBSD the-ripe-vessel 10.99.10 NetBSD 10.99.10 (GENERIC) #68: Fri Nov 17 14:40:27 PST 2023 thorpej@the-ripe-vessel:/space/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC amd64
>Description:
"expandtab" is documented as:
expandtab, et [off]
Prevent the use of <tab> characters in leading whitespace when
shifting text, autoindenting, indenting with <control-T>, or
outdenting with <control-D>.
This is different behavior from vim, for which <control-I> (i.e. <tab>) also applies. As you know, vim is shipped as the "vi" on a pretty large number of systems, thus making NetBSD's behavior in this regard an outlier.
I think the documented behavior is counter-intuitive and "correct" only in the sense that it matches the documentation. It leads to inconsistent indenting within a source file because <tab> is an easy (and natural) character to type, whereas <control-T> is not. Furthermore, the setting is called "expandtab" and the key on the keyboard labeled "TAB" does not get the "expand" treatment.
>How-To-Repeat:
Edit a file. Set "ts=2", "et", and "ai". Create a line with a leading <tab> character and some text. Hit return and let the editor auto-indent the next line and type some additional text. Now, set "ts=8" and observe.
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>Fix:
Yes please!
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