Re: install/59759: Core dump on sysupgrade to 11.0 BETA

To: install-manager%netbsd.org@localhost,gnats-admin%netbsd.org@localhost,netbsd-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost,jspath55%gmail.com@localhost
Subject: Re: install/59759: Core dump on sysupgrade to 11.0 BETA
From: "Christos Zoulas via gnats" <gnats-admin%NetBSD.org@localhost>
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2025 21:55:01 +0000 (UTC)
The following reply was made to PR install/59759; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Christos Zoulas <christos%zoulas.com@localhost>
To: gnats-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost
Cc: install-manager%netbsd.org@localhost,
 gnats-admin%netbsd.org@localhost,
 netbsd-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost,
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Subject: Re: install/59759: Core dump on sysupgrade to 11.0 BETA
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2025 16:52:08 -0500

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 > On Nov 17, 2025, at 3:15=E2=80=AFPM, Jim Spath via gnats =
 <gnats-admin%NetBSD.org@localhost> wrote:
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 > The following reply was made to PR install/59759; it has been noted by =
 GNATS.
 >=20
 > From: Jim Spath <jspath55%gmail.com@localhost>
 > To: gnats-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost
 > Cc:=20
 > Subject: Re: install/59759: Core dump on sysupgrade to 11.0 BETA
 > Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2025 15:10:30 -0500
 >=20
 > On Fri, Nov 14, 2025 at 12:15=3DE2=3D80=3DAFPM Martin Husemann via =
 gnats
 > <gnats-admin%netbsd.org@localhost> wrote:
 >> This is exactly the expected symptoms when using a 10.x kernel but
 >> 11.x userland, so no point in checking for crash details.
 >=20
 > Apologies for my naivete in not expecting this. Could the ticket be
 > changed to a doc-bug?
 >=20
 > Suggested wording for the sysupgrade (pkgsrc) manual page:
 >=20
 > =3D3D =3D3D
 > .Sh RESTRICTIONS
 > The sysupgrade command may encounter issues if the userland version is =
 newe=3D
 > r
 > than the kernel version, including shell command core dumps.
 > =3D3D =3D3D
 >=20
 > I am uncertain whether rebooting sooner into the newer 11.x kernel
 > would make a difference;
 > and, this is not how I have run sysupgrade in the past.
 
 =
 https://netbsd.org/docs/guide/en/netbsd.html?utm_source=3Dchatgpt.com#usin=
 g-sysupgrade
 This is already documented.
 Note
 
 Take care when upgrading across major releases - ensure your running =
 kernel is never older than the userspace.
 
 
 christos=
 
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 gnats &lt;gnats-admin%NetBSD.org@localhost&gt; wrote:</div><br =
 class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div>The following reply was =
 made to PR install/59759; it has been noted by GNATS.<br><br>From: Jim =
 Spath &lt;jspath55%gmail.com@localhost&gt;<br>To: gnats-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost<br>Cc: =
 <br>Subject: Re: install/59759: Core dump on sysupgrade to 11.0 =
 BETA<br>Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2025 15:10:30 -0500<br><br> On Fri, Nov 14, =
 2025 at 12:15=3DE2=3D80=3DAFPM Martin Husemann via gnats<br> =
 &lt;gnats-admin%netbsd.org@localhost&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote type=3D"cite"> This =
 is exactly the expected symptoms when using a 10.x kernel but<br> 11.x =
 userland, so no point in checking for crash =
 details.<br></blockquote><br> Apologies for my naivete in not expecting =
 this. Could the ticket be<br> changed to a doc-bug?<br><br> Suggested =
 wording for the sysupgrade (pkgsrc) manual page:<br><br> =3D3D =3D3D<br> =
 .Sh RESTRICTIONS<br> The sysupgrade command may encounter issues if the =
 userland version is newe=3D<br> r<br> than the kernel version, including =
 shell command core dumps.<br> =3D3D =3D3D<br><br> I am uncertain whether =
 rebooting sooner into the newer 11.x kernel<br> would make a =
 difference;<br> and, this is not how I have run sysupgrade in the =
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