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Re: install/57840: None of the NetBSD 10 RC2 images or isos works on my Intel i7-3770 Dell Optiplex 7010



The following reply was made to PR install/57840; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Xrhstaras Xrhstaras2 <chrisfromgreece%gmail.com@localhost>
To: install-manager%netbsd.org@localhost, gnats-admin%netbsd.org@localhost, netbsd-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost, 
	gnats-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost
Cc: 
Subject: Re: install/57840: None of the NetBSD 10 RC2 images or isos works on
 my Intel i7-3770 Dell Optiplex 7010
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2024 19:34:46 +0200

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 I have tried to install it via a cdrom and i got the same message again
 
 =CE=A3=CF=84=CE=B9=CF=82 =CE=A0=CE=AD=CE=BC 1 =CE=A6=CE=B5=CE=B2 2024 =CF=
 =83=CF=84=CE=B9=CF=82 3:10=E2=80=AF=CE=BC.=CE=BC., =CE=BF/=CE=B7 Xrhstaras =
 Xrhstaras2 <
 chrisfromgreece%gmail.com@localhost> =CE=AD=CE=B3=CF=81=CE=B1=CF=88=CE=B5:
 
 > The following reply was made to PR install/57840; it has been noted by
 > GNATS.
 >
 > From: Xrhstaras Xrhstaras2 <chrisfromgreece%gmail.com@localhost>
 > To: install-manager%netbsd.org@localhost, gnats-admin%netbsd.org@localhost,
 > netbsd-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost,
 >         gnats-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost
 > Cc:
 > Subject: Re: install/57840: None of the NetBSD 10 RC2 images or isos work=
 s
 > on
 >  my Intel i7-3770 Dell Optiplex 7010
 > Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2024 15:05:02 +0200
 >
 >  --0000000000006f6f05061051a52c
 >  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"UTF-8"
 >  Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 >
 >  *I will install a dvd drive from another pc i don't use i should done it
 >  already anyway.*
 >  *But this problem must be solved*
 >  The only modification i made on my pc was to apply a bios patch so i can
 >  install a pci express NVME SSD Drive.
 >  Maybe something has to do with it ? because another user said that it
 > works
 >  on his pc.
 >     Anyway i will try booting from a dvd and see if it works !
 >
 >  =3DCE=3DA3=3DCF=3D84=3DCE=3DB9=3DCF=3D82 =3DCE=3DA4=3DCF=3D81=3DCE=3DAF =
 16 =3DCE=3D99=3DCE=3DB1=3DCE=3DBD 2024
 > =3DCF=3D
 >  =3D83=3DCF=3D84=3DCE=3DB9=3DCF=3D82 9:15=3DE2=3D80=3DAF=3DCE=3DBC.=3DCE=
 =3DBC., =3DCE=3DBF/=3DCE=3DB7
 > Xrhstaras =3D
 >  Xrhstaras2 <
 >  chrisfromgreece%gmail.com@localhost> =3DCE=3DAD=3DCE=3DB3=3DCF=3D81=3DCE=3DB1=3DCF=
 =3D88=3DCE=3DB5:
 >
 >  > The following reply was made to PR install/57840; it has been noted by
 >  > GNATS.
 >  >
 >  > From: Xrhstaras Xrhstaras2 <chrisfromgreece%gmail.com@localhost>
 >  > To: gnats-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost
 >  > Cc:
 >  > Subject: Re: install/57840: None of the NetBSD 10 RC2 images or isos
 > work=3D
 >  s
 >  > on
 >  >  my Intel i7-3770 Dell Optiplex 7010
 >  > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2024 21:09:54 +0200
 >  >
 >  >  --000000000000aaaaa7060f14e0a9
 >  >  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D3D"UTF-8"
 >  >  Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 >  >
 >  >  I tried with a brand new usb and i got the same message , its the onl=
 y
 >  >  thing it shows when it tries to boot MEM and some hex addresses nothi=
 ng
 >  > els=3D3D
 >  >  e
 >  >  Also i tried to enable legacy boot on bios but it doesn't even tries =
 to
 >  >  boot from the usb flash.
 >  >
 >  >  =3D3DCE=3D3DA3=3D3DCF=3D3D84=3D3DCE=3D3DB9=3D3DCF=3D3D82
 > =3D3DCE=3D3DA3=3D3DCE=3D3DAC=3D3DCE=3D3DB2 =3D
 >  13 =3D3DCE=3D3D99=3D3DCE=3D3DB1=3D3DCE=3D3DBD 2024
 >  > =3D3DCF=3D3D
 >  >  =3D3D83=3D3DCF=3D3D84=3D3DCE=3D3DB9=3D3DCF=3D3D82
 > 2:35=3D3DE2=3D3D80=3D3DAF=3D3DCF=3D3D80.=3D3DCE=3D
 >  =3D3DBC., =3D3DCE=3D3DBF/=3D3DCE=3D3DB7 Harold
 >  > Gut=3D3D
 >  >  ch <
 >  >  logix%foobar.franken.de@localhost>
 > =3D3DCE=3D3DAD=3D3DCE=3D3DB3=3D3DCF=3D3D81=3D3DCE=3D3DB1=3D3DCF=3D
 >  =3D3D88=3D3DCE=3D3DB5:
 >  >
 >  >  > The following reply was made to PR install/57840; it has been noted
 > by
 >  >  > GNATS.
 >  >  >
 >  >  > From: Harold Gutch <logix%foobar.franken.de@localhost>
 >  >  > To: gnats-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost
 >  >  > Cc:
 >  >  > Subject: Re: install/57840: None of the NetBSD 10 RC2 images or iso=
 s
 >  > work=3D3D
 >  >  s
 >  >  > on my Intel i7-3770 Dell Optiplex 7010
 >  >  > Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2024 01:32:58 +0100
 >  >  >
 >  >  >  Hi,
 >  >  >
 >  >  >  I just tested it on exactly that type of machine, Dell Optiplex 70=
 10
 >  >  >  with i7-3770 (to be precise, this is a Slim Tower variant, somewha=
 t
 >  >  >  similar to the SFF variant but with 4 USB ports in the front *next
 > to
 >  >  >  each other in a row*), and it worked for me:
 >  >  >
 >  >  >    wget
 >  >  >
 >  >
 > https://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-10.0_RC2/images/NetBSD-10.0_RC2-=
 =3D
 >  =3D3D
 >  >  amd64-install.img.gz
 >  >  >    gunzip NetBSD-10.0_RC2-amd64-install.img.gz
 >  >  >    dd if=3D3D3DNetBSD-10.0_RC2-amd64-install.img of=3D3D3D/dev/sdb
 > bs=3D3D3D=3D
 >  8M conv=3D3D
 >  >  =3D3D3Dsync
 >  >  >
 >  >  >  I successfully booted to the installer with that in both BIOS and
 > EFI
 >  >  >  mode.  The USB stick was a 32 GB Kingston DataTraveler and I used
 > one
 >  >  >  of the two USB SS (USB 3.0) ports in the back.  All I did was go t=
 o
 >  >  >  the boot selector menu (F12 when the Dell logo comes up) and selec=
 t
 >  >  >  USB there.
 >  >  >
 >  >  >  Make sure you use the .img if you boot from USB.  The .iso can onl=
 y
 > b=3D
 >  e
 >  >  >  used to boot from an actual (physical or emulated) optical drive,
 > but
 >  >  >  not from a USB thumb drive.
 >  >  >
 >  >  >  Can you test another thumb drive to see if it's perhaps that?  And
 >  >  >  what error messages *exactly* are you seeing?
 >  >  >
 >  >  >
 >  >  >    Harold
 >  >  >
 >  >  >
 >  >
 >  >  --000000000000aaaaa7060f14e0a9
 >  >  Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D3D"UTF-8"
 >  >  Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 >  >
 >  >  <div dir=3D3D3D"ltr">I tried with a brand new usb and i got the same
 > messa=3D
 >  ge
 >  > , =3D3D
 >  >  its the only thing it shows when it tries to boot MEM and some hex
 >  > addresse=3D3D
 >  >  s nothing else<div>Also i tried to enable legacy boot on bios but it
 >  > doesn&=3D3D
 >  >  #39;t even tries to boot from the usb flash.</div></div><br><div
 >  > class=3D3D3D"g=3D3D
 >  >  mail_quote"><div dir=3D3D3D"ltr"
 >  > class=3D3D3D"gmail_attr">=3D3DCE=3D3DA3=3D3DCF=3D3D84=3D3DCE=3D3DB9=3D=
 3DCF=3D3D82 =3D3D
 >  >  =3D3DCE=3D3DA3=3D3DCE=3D3DAC=3D3DCE=3D3DB2 13 =3D3DCE=3D3D99=3D3DCE=
 =3D3DB1=3D3DCE=3D3DBD 2024 =3D
 >  =3D3DCF=3D3D83=3D3DCF=3D3D84=3D3DCE=3D3DB9=3D3DCF=3D3D82
 >  > 2:35=3D3D
 >  >  =3D3DE2=3D3D80=3D3DAF=3D3DCF=3D3D80.=3D3DCE=3D3DBC., =3D3DCE=3D3DBF/=
 =3D3DCE=3D3DB7 Harold
 > Gutc=3D
 >  h &lt;<a href=3D3D3D"mailto:
 >  > l=3D3D
 >  >  ogix%foobar.franken.de@localhost">logix%foobar.franken.de@localhost</a>&gt;
 >  > =3D3DCE=3D3DAD=3D3DCE=3D3DB3=3D3DCF=3D3D81=3D3D
 >  >  =3D3DCE=3D3DB1=3D3DCF=3D3D88=3D3DCE=3D3DB5:<br></div><blockquote
 > class=3D3D3D"gmail_qu=3D
 >  ote"
 >  > style=3D3D3D"mar=3D3D
 >  >  gin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
 >  > rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1=3D3D
 >  >  ex">The following reply was made to PR install/57840; it has been not=
 ed
 >  > by =3D3D
 >  >  GNATS.<br>
 >  >  <br>
 >  >  From: Harold Gutch &lt;<a href=3D3D3D"mailto:logix%foobar.franken.de@localhost";
 >  > target=3D3D3D=3D3D
 >  >  "_blank">logix%foobar.franken.de@localhost</a>&gt;<br>
 >  >  To: <a href=3D3D3D"mailto:gnats-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost";
 >  > target=3D3D3D"_blank">gnats-bugs@n=3D3D
 >  >  etbsd.org</a><br>
 >  >  Cc: <br>
 >  >  Subject: Re: install/57840: None of the NetBSD 10 RC2 images or isos
 >  > works =3D3D
 >  >  on my Intel i7-3770 Dell Optiplex 7010<br>
 >  >  Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2024 01:32:58 +0100<br>
 >  >  <br>
 >  >  =3D3DC2=3D3DA0Hi,<br>
 >  >  <br>
 >  >  =3D3DC2=3D3DA0I just tested it on exactly that type of machine, Dell
 > Optiple=3D
 >  x
 >  > 7010<=3D3D
 >  >  br>
 >  >  =3D3DC2=3D3DA0with i7-3770 (to be precise, this is a Slim Tower varia=
 nt,
 >  > somewhat<b=3D3D
 >  >  r>
 >  >  =3D3DC2=3D3DA0similar to the SFF variant but with 4 USB ports in the =
 front
 > *=3D
 >  next
 >  > to=3D3D
 >  >  <br>
 >  >  =3D3DC2=3D3DA0each other in a row*), and it worked for me:<br>
 >  >  <br>
 >  >  =3D3DC2=3D3DA0 =3D3DC2=3D3DA0wget <a href=3D3D3D"
 >  > https://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-10.0_=3D3D
 >  >  RC2/images/NetBSD-10.0_RC2-amd64-install.img.gz" rel=3D3D3D"noreferre=
 r"
 >  > target=3D3D
 >  >  =3D3D3D"_blank">
 >  > https://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-10.0_RC2/images/NetBSD=3D3D
 >  >  -10.0_RC2-amd64-install.img.gz</a><br>
 >  >  =3D3DC2=3D3DA0 =3D3DC2=3D3DA0gunzip NetBSD-10.0_RC2-amd64-install.img=
 .gz<br>
 >  >  =3D3DC2=3D3DA0 =3D3DC2=3D3DA0dd if=3D3D3DNetBSD-10.0_RC2-amd64-instal=
 l.img
 > of=3D3D3D=3D
 >  /dev/sdb
 >  > bs=3D3D3D8=3D3D
 >  >  M conv=3D3D3Dsync<br>
 >  >  <br>
 >  >  =3D3DC2=3D3DA0I successfully booted to the installer with that in bot=
 h
 > BIOS =3D
 >  and
 >  > EFI=3D3D
 >  >  <br>
 >  >  =3D3DC2=3D3DA0mode.=3D3DC2=3D3DA0 The USB stick was a 32 GB Kingston
 > DataTravele=3D
 >  r and I
 >  > use=3D3D
 >  >  d one<br>
 >  >  =3D3DC2=3D3DA0of the two USB SS (USB 3.0) ports in the back.=3D3DC2=
 =3D3DA0 All
 > I=3D
 >   did was
 >  > go=3D3D
 >  >   to<br>
 >  >  =3D3DC2=3D3DA0the boot selector menu (F12 when the Dell logo comes up=
 ) and
 >  > select<b=3D3D
 >  >  r>
 >  >  =3D3DC2=3D3DA0USB there.<br>
 >  >  <br>
 >  >  =3D3DC2=3D3DA0Make sure you use the .img if you boot from USB.=3D3DC2=
 =3D3DA0
 > The=3D
 >   .iso can
 >  > o=3D3D
 >  >  nly be<br>
 >  >  =3D3DC2=3D3DA0used to boot from an actual (physical or emulated) opti=
 cal
 > dri=3D
 >  ve,
 >  > but=3D3D
 >  >  <br>
 >  >  =3D3DC2=3D3DA0not from a USB thumb drive.<br>
 >  >  <br>
 >  >  =3D3DC2=3D3DA0Can you test another thumb drive to see if it&#39;s per=
 haps
 >  > that?=3D3DC2=3D3D
 >  >  =3D3DA0 And<br>
 >  >  =3D3DC2=3D3DA0what error messages *exactly* are you seeing?<br>
 >  >  <br>
 >  >  <br>
 >  >  =3D3DC2=3D3DA0 =3D3DC2=3D3DA0Harold<br>
 >  >  <br>
 >  >  </blockquote></div>
 >  >
 >  >  --000000000000aaaaa7060f14e0a9--
 >  >
 >  >
 >
 >  --0000000000006f6f05061051a52c
 >  Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"UTF-8"
 >  Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 >
 >  <div dir=3D3D"ltr"><b style=3D3D"">I will install a dvd drive from anoth=
 er pc
 > i=3D
 >   don&#39;t use i should done it already anyway.</b><div style=3D3D""><b
 > style=3D
 >  =3D3D"">But this problem must be solved</b></div><div style=3D3D"">The o=
 nly
 > mod=3D
 >  ification i made on my pc was to apply a bios patch so i can install a
 > pci =3D
 >  express NVME SSD Drive.</div><div style=3D3D"">Maybe something has to do
 > with=3D
 >   it ? because another user said that it works on his pc.</div><div
 > style=3D3D=3D
 >  "">=3DC2=3DA0 =3DC2=3DA0Anyway i will try booting from a dvd and see if =
 it works
 > !<=3D
 >  /div></div><br><div class=3D3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D3D"ltr"
 > class=3D3D"gmail_a=3D
 >  ttr">=3DCE=3DA3=3DCF=3D84=3DCE=3DB9=3DCF=3D82 =3DCE=3DA4=3DCF=3D81=3DCE=
 =3DAF 16 =3DCE=3D99=3DCE=3DB1=3DCE=3DBD
 > 2024=3D
 >   =3DCF=3D83=3DCF=3D84=3DCE=3DB9=3DCF=3D82 9:15=3DE2=3D80=3DAF=3DCE=3DBC.=
 =3DCE=3DBC., =3DCE=3DBF/=3DCE=3DB7
 > Xrhsta=3D
 >  ras Xrhstaras2 &lt;<a href=3D3D"mailto:chrisfromgreece%gmail.com@localhost
 > ">chrisfromgr=3D
 >  eece%gmail.com@localhost</a>&gt;
 > =3DCE=3DAD=3DCE=3DB3=3DCF=3D81=3DCE=3DB1=3DCF=3D88=3DCE=3DB5:<br></div><b=
 loc=3D
 >  kquote class=3D3D"gmail_quote" style=3D3D"margin:0px 0px 0px
 > 0.8ex;border-left:=3D
 >  1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">The following reply was mad=
 e
 > t=3D
 >  o PR install/57840; it has been noted by GNATS.<br>
 >  <br>
 >  From: Xrhstaras Xrhstaras2 &lt;<a href=3D3D"mailto:
 > chrisfromgreece%gmail.com@localhost"=3D
 >   target=3D3D"_blank">chrisfromgreece%gmail.com@localhost</a>&gt;<br>
 >  To: <a href=3D3D"mailto:gnats-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost";
 > target=3D3D"_blank">gnats-bugs@n=3D
 >  etbsd.org</a><br>
 >  Cc: <br>
 >  Subject: Re: install/57840: None of the NetBSD 10 RC2 images or isos
 > works =3D
 >  on<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0my Intel i7-3770 Dell Optiplex 7010<br>
 >  Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2024 21:09:54 +0200<br>
 >  <br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0--000000000000aaaaa7060f14e0a9<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D3D&quot;UTF-8&quot;<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable<br>
 >  <br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0I tried with a brand new usb and i got the same message , its =
 the
 > onl=3D
 >  y<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0thing it shows when it tries to boot MEM and some hex addresse=
 s
 > nothi=3D
 >  ng els=3D3D<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0e<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0Also i tried to enable legacy boot on bios but it doesn&#39;t =
 even
 > tr=3D
 >  ies to<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0boot from the usb flash.<br>
 >  <br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0=3D3DCE=3D3DA3=3D3DCF=3D3D84=3D3DCE=3D3DB9=3D3DCF=3D3D82
 > =3D3DCE=3D3DA3=3D3DCE=3D3DAC=3D3DCE=3D3D=3D
 >  B2 13 =3D3DCE=3D3D99=3D3DCE=3D3DB1=3D3DCE=3D3DBD 2024 =3D3DCF=3D3D<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0=3D3D83=3D3DCF=3D3D84=3D3DCE=3D3DB9=3D3DCF=3D3D82
 > 2:35=3D3DE2=3D3D80=3D3DAF=3D3DCF=3D3D80.=3D3D=3D
 >  CE=3D3DBC., =3D3DCE=3D3DBF/=3D3DCE=3D3DB7 Harold Gut=3D3D<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0ch &lt;<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0<a href=3D3D"mailto:logix%foobar.franken.de@localhost";
 > target=3D3D"_blank">logix@fo=3D
 >  obar.franken.de</a>&gt;
 > =3D3DCE=3D3DAD=3D3DCE=3D3DB3=3D3DCF=3D3D81=3D3DCE=3D3DB1=3D3DCF=3D3D88=3D
 >  =3D3DCE=3D3DB5:<br>
 >  <br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&gt; The following reply was made to PR install/57840; it has =
 been
 > no=3D
 >  ted by<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&gt; GNATS.<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&gt;<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&gt; From: Harold Gutch &lt;<a href=3D3D"mailto:
 > logix%foobar.franken.de@localhost=3D
 >  " target=3D3D"_blank">logix%foobar.franken.de@localhost</a>&gt;<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&gt; To: <a href=3D3D"mailto:gnats-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost";
 > target=3D3D"_blank">g=3D
 >  nats-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost</a><br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&gt; Cc:<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&gt; Subject: Re: install/57840: None of the NetBSD 10 RC2 ima=
 ges
 > or =3D
 >  isos work=3D3D<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0s<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&gt; on my Intel i7-3770 Dell Optiplex 7010<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&gt; Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2024 01:32:58 +0100<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&gt;<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&gt;=3DC2=3DA0 Hi,<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&gt;<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&gt;=3DC2=3DA0 I just tested it on exactly that type of machin=
 e, Dell
 > Opt=3D
 >  iplex 7010<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&gt;=3DC2=3DA0 with i7-3770 (to be precise, this is a Slim Tow=
 er
 > variant,=3D
 >   somewhat<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&gt;=3DC2=3DA0 similar to the SFF variant but with 4 USB ports=
  in the
 > fro=3D
 >  nt *next to<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&gt;=3DC2=3DA0 each other in a row*), and it worked for me:<br=
 >
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&gt;<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&gt;=3DC2=3DA0 =3DC2=3DA0 wget<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&gt; <a href=3D3D"
 > https://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-10.0_RC2/ima=3D
 >  ges/NetBSD-10.0_RC2-=3D3D" rel=3D3D"noreferrer" target=3D3D"_blank">
 > https://cdn.n=3D
 >  etbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-10.0_RC2/images/NetBSD-10.0_RC2-=3D3D</a><br=
 >
 >  =3DC2=3DA0amd64-install.img.gz<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&gt;=3DC2=3DA0 =3DC2=3DA0 gunzip NetBSD-10.0_RC2-amd64-install=
 .img.gz<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&gt;=3DC2=3DA0 =3DC2=3DA0 dd if=3D3D3DNetBSD-10.0_RC2-amd64-in=
 stall.img
 > of=3D3D3D=3D
 >  /dev/sdb bs=3D3D3D8M conv=3D3D<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0=3D3D3Dsync<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&gt;<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&gt;=3DC2=3DA0 I successfully booted to the installer with tha=
 t in both
 > B=3D
 >  IOS and EFI<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&gt;=3DC2=3DA0 mode.=3DC2=3DA0 The USB stick was a 32 GB Kings=
 ton
 > DataTravele=3D
 >  r and I used one<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&gt;=3DC2=3DA0 of the two USB SS (USB 3.0) ports in the back.=
 =3DC2=3DA0 All
 > I=3D
 >   did was go to<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&gt;=3DC2=3DA0 the boot selector menu (F12 when the Dell logo =
 comes up)
 > a=3D
 >  nd select<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&gt;=3DC2=3DA0 USB there.<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&gt;<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&gt;=3DC2=3DA0 Make sure you use the .img if you boot from USB=
 .=3DC2=3DA0
 > The=3D
 >   .iso can only be<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&gt;=3DC2=3DA0 used to boot from an actual (physical or emulat=
 ed)
 > optical=3D
 >   drive, but<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&gt;=3DC2=3DA0 not from a USB thumb drive.<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&gt;<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&gt;=3DC2=3DA0 Can you test another thumb drive to see if it&#=
 39;s
 > perhap=3D
 >  s that?=3DC2=3DA0 And<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&gt;=3DC2=3DA0 what error messages *exactly* are you seeing?<b=
 r>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&gt;<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&gt;<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&gt;=3DC2=3DA0 =3DC2=3DA0 Harold<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&gt;<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&gt;<br>
 >  <br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0--000000000000aaaaa7060f14e0a9<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D3D&quot;UTF-8&quot;<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable<br>
 >  <br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&lt;div dir=3D3D3D&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;I tried with a brand new =
 usb and
 > i=3D
 >   got the same message , =3D3D<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0its the only thing it shows when it tries to boot MEM and some=
  hex
 > ad=3D
 >  dresse=3D3D<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0s nothing else&lt;div&gt;Also i tried to enable legacy boot on=
  bios
 > b=3D
 >  ut it doesn&amp;=3D3D<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0#39;t even tries to boot from the usb
 > flash.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&=3D
 >  lt;br&gt;&lt;div class=3D3D3D&quot;g=3D3D<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0mail_quote&quot;&gt;&lt;div dir=3D3D3D&quot;ltr&quot;
 > class=3D3D3D&quot;g=3D
 >  mail_attr&quot;&gt;=3D3DCE=3D3DA3=3D3DCF=3D3D84=3D3DCE=3D3DB9=3D3DCF=3D3=
 D82 =3D3D<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0=3D3DCE=3D3DA3=3D3DCE=3D3DAC=3D3DCE=3D3DB2 13 =3D3DCE=3D3D99=
 =3D3DCE=3D3DB1=3D3DCE=3D3DBD
 > 2024=3D
 >   =3D3DCF=3D3D83=3D3DCF=3D3D84=3D3DCE=3D3DB9=3D3DCF=3D3D82 2:35=3D3D<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0=3D3DE2=3D3D80=3D3DAF=3D3DCF=3D3D80.=3D3DCE=3D3DBC., =3D3DCE=
 =3D3DBF/=3D3DCE=3D3DB7 Harold
 > G=3D
 >  utch &amp;lt;&lt;a href=3D3D3D&quot;mailto:<a href=3D3D"mailto:l";
 > target=3D3D"_bl=3D
 >  ank">l</a>=3D3D<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0<a href=3D3D"mailto:ogix%foobar.franken.de@localhost";
 > target=3D3D"_blank">ogix@foob=3D
 >  ar.franken.de</a>&quot;&gt;<a href=3D3D"mailto:logix%foobar.franken.de@localhost";
 > targe=3D
 >  t=3D3D"_blank">logix%foobar.franken.de@localhost</a>&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
 > =3D3DCE=3D3DAD=3D3DCE=3D
 >  =3D3DB3=3D3DCF=3D3D81=3D3D<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0=3D3DCE=3D3DB1=3D3DCF=3D3D88=3D3DCE=3D3DB5:&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&=
 gt;&lt;blockquote
 > c=3D
 >  lass=3D3D3D&quot;gmail_quote&quot; style=3D3D3D&quot;mar=3D3D<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0gin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
 > rgb(204,204,204);padding-=3D
 >  left:1=3D3D<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0ex&quot;&gt;The following reply was made to PR install/57840; =
 it
 > has =3D
 >  been noted by =3D3D<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0GNATS.&lt;br&gt;<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&lt;br&gt;<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0From: Harold Gutch &amp;lt;&lt;a href=3D3D3D&quot;mailto:<a
 > href=3D3D"mai=3D
 >  lto:logix%foobar.franken.de@localhost" target=3D3D"_blank">logix%foobar.franken.de@localhost
 > </a>&=3D
 >  quot; target=3D3D3D=3D3D<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;<a href=3D3D"mailto:logix@foobar.franken=
 .de"
 > targ=3D
 >  et=3D3D"_blank">logix%foobar.franken.de@localhost</a>&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;<=
 br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0To: &lt;a href=3D3D3D&quot;mailto:<a href=3D3D"mailto:
 > gnats-bugs@netbsd.o=3D
 >  rg" target=3D3D"_blank">gnats-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost</a>&quot;
 > target=3D3D3D&quot;_bla=3D
 >  nk&quot;&gt;gnats-bugs@n=3D3D<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0<a href=3D3D"http://etbsd.org"; rel=3D3D"noreferrer"
 > target=3D3D"_blank">etb=3D
 >  sd.org</a>&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0Cc: &lt;br&gt;<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0Subject: Re: install/57840: None of the NetBSD 10 RC2 images o=
 r
 > isos =3D
 >  works =3D3D<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0on my Intel i7-3770 Dell Optiplex 7010&lt;br&gt;<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2024 01:32:58 +0100&lt;br&gt;<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&lt;br&gt;<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0=3D3DC2=3D3DA0Hi,&lt;br&gt;<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&lt;br&gt;<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0=3D3DC2=3D3DA0I just tested it on exactly that type of machine=
 , Dell
 > Opti=3D
 >  plex 7010&lt;=3D3D<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0br&gt;<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0=3D3DC2=3D3DA0with i7-3770 (to be precise, this is a Slim Towe=
 r
 > variant, =3D
 >  somewhat&lt;b=3D3D<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0r&gt;<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0=3D3DC2=3D3DA0similar to the SFF variant but with 4 USB ports =
 in the
 > fron=3D
 >  t *next to=3D3D<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&lt;br&gt;<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0=3D3DC2=3D3DA0each other in a row*), and it worked for me:&lt;=
 br&gt;<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&lt;br&gt;<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0=3D3DC2=3D3DA0 =3D3DC2=3D3DA0wget &lt;a href=3D3D3D&quot;<a hr=
 ef=3D3D"
 > https://cdn=3D
 >  .netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-10.0_=3D3D" rel=3D3D"noreferrer"
 > target=3D3D"_blank=3D
 >  ">https://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-10.0_=3D3D</a><br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0RC2/images/NetBSD-10.0_RC2-amd64-install.img.gz&quot;
 > rel=3D3D3D&quot;n=3D
 >  oreferrer&quot; target=3D3D<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0=3D3D3D&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;<a href=3D3D"
 > https://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetB=3D
 >  SD/NetBSD-10.0_RC2/images/NetBSD=3D3D" rel=3D3D"noreferrer"
 > target=3D3D"_blank">h=3D
 >  ttps://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-10.0_RC2/images/NetBSD=3D3D</a><=
 br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0-10.0_RC2-amd64-install.img.gz&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0=3D3DC2=3D3DA0 =3D3DC2=3D3DA0gunzip
 > NetBSD-10.0_RC2-amd64-install.img.gz&lt;b=3D
 >  r&gt;<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0=3D3DC2=3D3DA0 =3D3DC2=3D3DA0dd if=3D3D3DNetBSD-10.0_RC2-amd64=
 -install.img of=3D
 >  =3D3D3D/dev/sdb bs=3D3D3D8=3D3D<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0M conv=3D3D3Dsync&lt;br&gt;<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&lt;br&gt;<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0=3D3DC2=3D3DA0I successfully booted to the installer with that=
  in both
 > BI=3D
 >  OS and EFI=3D3D<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&lt;br&gt;<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0=3D3DC2=3D3DA0mode.=3D3DC2=3D3DA0 The USB stick was a 32 GB Ki=
 ngston
 > DataTrav=3D
 >  eler and I use=3D3D<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0d one&lt;br&gt;<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0=3D3DC2=3D3DA0of the two USB SS (USB 3.0) ports in the back.=
 =3D3DC2=3D3DA0
 > Al=3D
 >  l I did was go=3D3D<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0 to&lt;br&gt;<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0=3D3DC2=3D3DA0the boot selector menu (F12 when the Dell logo c=
 omes up)
 > an=3D
 >  d select&lt;b=3D3D<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0r&gt;<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0=3D3DC2=3D3DA0USB there.&lt;br&gt;<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&lt;br&gt;<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0=3D3DC2=3D3DA0Make sure you use the .img if you boot from
 > USB.=3D3DC2=3D3DA0 =3D
 >  The .iso can o=3D3D<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0nly be&lt;br&gt;<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0=3D3DC2=3D3DA0used to boot from an actual (physical or emulate=
 d)
 > optical =3D
 >  drive, but=3D3D<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&lt;br&gt;<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0=3D3DC2=3D3DA0not from a USB thumb drive.&lt;br&gt;<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&lt;br&gt;<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0=3D3DC2=3D3DA0Can you test another thumb drive to see if it&am=
 p;#39;s
 > per=3D
 >  haps that?=3D3DC2=3D3D<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0=3D3DA0 And&lt;br&gt;<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0=3D3DC2=3D3DA0what error messages *exactly* are you
 > seeing?&lt;br&gt;<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&lt;br&gt;<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&lt;br&gt;<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0=3D3DC2=3D3DA0 =3D3DC2=3D3DA0Harold&lt;br&gt;<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&lt;br&gt;<br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;<br>
 >  <br>
 >  =3DC2=3DA0--000000000000aaaaa7060f14e0a9--<br>
 >  <br>
 >  </blockquote></div>
 >
 >  --0000000000006f6f05061051a52c--
 >
 >
 
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 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8"
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
 <div dir=3D"ltr">I have tried to install it via a cdrom=C2=A0and i got the =
 same message again</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cla=
 ss=3D"gmail_attr">=CE=A3=CF=84=CE=B9=CF=82 =CE=A0=CE=AD=CE=BC 1 =CE=A6=CE=
 =B5=CE=B2 2024 =CF=83=CF=84=CE=B9=CF=82 3:10=E2=80=AF=CE=BC.=CE=BC., =CE=BF=
 /=CE=B7 Xrhstaras Xrhstaras2 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:chrisfromgreece%gmail.co@localhost=
 m">chrisfromgreece%gmail.com@localhost</a>&gt; =CE=AD=CE=B3=CF=81=CE=B1=CF=88=CE=B5:<=
 br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
 x;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">The following re=
 ply was made to PR install/57840; it has been noted by GNATS.<br>
 <br>
 From: Xrhstaras Xrhstaras2 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:chrisfromgreece%gmail.com@localhost"=
  target=3D"_blank">chrisfromgreece%gmail.com@localhost</a>&gt;<br>
 To: <a href=3D"mailto:install-manager%netbsd.org@localhost"; target=3D"_blank">install=
 -manager%netbsd.org@localhost</a>, <a href=3D"mailto:gnats-admin%netbsd.org@localhost"; target=
 =3D"_blank">gnats-admin%netbsd.org@localhost</a>, <a href=3D"mailto:netbsd-bugs@netbs=
 d.org" target=3D"_blank">netbsd-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost</a>, <br>
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <a href=3D"mailto:gnats-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost"; target=
 =3D"_blank">gnats-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost</a><br>
 Cc: <br>
 Subject: Re: install/57840: None of the NetBSD 10 RC2 images or isos works =
 on<br>
 =C2=A0my Intel i7-3770 Dell Optiplex 7010<br>
 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2024 15:05:02 +0200<br>
 <br>
 =C2=A0--0000000000006f6f05061051a52c<br>
 =C2=A0Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D&quot;UTF-8&quot;<br>
 =C2=A0Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable<br>
 <br>
 =C2=A0*I will install a dvd drive from another pc i don&#39;t use i should =
 done it<br>
 =C2=A0already anyway.*<br>
 =C2=A0*But this problem must be solved*<br>
 =C2=A0The only modification i made on my pc was to apply a bios patch so i =
 can<br>
 =C2=A0install a pci express NVME SSD Drive.<br>
 =C2=A0Maybe something has to do with it ? because another user said that it=
  works<br>
 =C2=A0on his pc.<br>
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Anyway i will try booting from a dvd and see if it works !<br=
 >
 <br>
 =C2=A0=3DCE=3DA3=3DCF=3D84=3DCE=3DB9=3DCF=3D82 =3DCE=3DA4=3DCF=3D81=3DCE=3D=
 AF 16 =3DCE=3D99=3DCE=3DB1=3DCE=3DBD 2024 =3DCF=3D<br>
 =C2=A0=3D83=3DCF=3D84=3DCE=3DB9=3DCF=3D82 9:15=3DE2=3D80=3DAF=3DCE=3DBC.=3D=
 CE=3DBC., =3DCE=3DBF/=3DCE=3DB7 Xrhstaras =3D<br>
 =C2=A0Xrhstaras2 &lt;<br>
 =C2=A0<a href=3D"mailto:chrisfromgreece%gmail.com@localhost"; target=3D"_blank">chrisf=
 romgreece%gmail.com@localhost</a>&gt; =3DCE=3DAD=3DCE=3DB3=3DCF=3D81=3DCE=3DB1=3DCF=
 =3D88=3DCE=3DB5:<br>
 <br>
 =C2=A0&gt; The following reply was made to PR install/57840; it has been no=
 ted by<br>
 =C2=A0&gt; GNATS.<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt; From: Xrhstaras Xrhstaras2 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:chrisfromgreece=
 @gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">chrisfromgreece%gmail.com@localhost</a>&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt; To: <a href=3D"mailto:gnats-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost"; target=3D"_blank">g=
 nats-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost</a><br>
 =C2=A0&gt; Cc:<br>
 =C2=A0&gt; Subject: Re: install/57840: None of the NetBSD 10 RC2 images or =
 isos work=3D<br>
 =C2=A0s<br>
 =C2=A0&gt; on<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 my Intel i7-3770 Dell Optiplex 7010<br>
 =C2=A0&gt; Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2024 21:09:54 +0200<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 --000000000000aaaaa7060f14e0a9<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D3D&quot;UTF-8&quot;<br=
 >
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 I tried with a brand new usb and i got the same message , =
 its the only<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 thing it shows when it tries to boot MEM and some hex addr=
 esses nothing<br>
 =C2=A0&gt; els=3D3D<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 e<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 Also i tried to enable legacy boot on bios but it doesn&#3=
 9;t even tries to<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 boot from the usb flash.<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 =3D3DCE=3D3DA3=3D3DCF=3D3D84=3D3DCE=3D3DB9=3D3DCF=3D3D82 =
 =3D3DCE=3D3DA3=3D3DCE=3D3DAC=3D3DCE=3D3DB2 =3D<br>
 =C2=A013 =3D3DCE=3D3D99=3D3DCE=3D3DB1=3D3DCE=3D3DBD 2024<br>
 =C2=A0&gt; =3D3DCF=3D3D<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 =3D3D83=3D3DCF=3D3D84=3D3DCE=3D3DB9=3D3DCF=3D3D82 2:35=3D3=
 DE2=3D3D80=3D3DAF=3D3DCF=3D3D80.=3D3DCE=3D<br>
 =C2=A0=3D3DBC., =3D3DCE=3D3DBF/=3D3DCE=3D3DB7 Harold<br>
 =C2=A0&gt; Gut=3D3D<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 ch &lt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 <a href=3D"mailto:logix%foobar.franken.de@localhost"; target=3D"_blan=
 k">logix%foobar.franken.de@localhost</a>&gt; =3D3DCE=3D3DAD=3D3DCE=3D3DB3=3D3DCF=3D3D=
 81=3D3DCE=3D3DB1=3D3DCF=3D<br>
 =C2=A0=3D3D88=3D3DCE=3D3DB5:<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &gt; The following reply was made to PR install/57840; it =
 has been noted by<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &gt; GNATS.<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &gt; From: Harold Gutch &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:logix@foobar=
 .franken.de" target=3D"_blank">logix%foobar.franken.de@localhost</a>&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &gt; To: <a href=3D"mailto:gnats-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost"; target=
 =3D"_blank">gnats-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost</a><br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &gt; Cc:<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &gt; Subject: Re: install/57840: None of the NetBSD 10 RC2=
  images or isos<br>
 =C2=A0&gt; work=3D3D<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 s<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &gt; on my Intel i7-3770 Dell Optiplex 7010<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &gt; Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2024 01:32:58 +0100<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;=C2=A0 Hi,<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;=C2=A0 I just tested it on exactly that type of machin=
 e, Dell Optiplex 7010<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;=C2=A0 with i7-3770 (to be precise, this is a Slim Tow=
 er variant, somewhat<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;=C2=A0 similar to the SFF variant but with 4 USB ports=
  in the front *next to<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;=C2=A0 each other in a row*), and it worked for me:<br=
 >
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 wget<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt; <a href=3D"https://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-10.0_RC2/ima=
 ges/NetBSD-10.0_RC2-=3D" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://cdn.n=
 etbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-10.0_RC2/images/NetBSD-10.0_RC2-=3D</a><br>
 =C2=A0=3D3D<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 amd64-install.img.gz<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 gunzip NetBSD-10.0_RC2-amd64-install.img=
 .gz<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 dd if=3D3D3DNetBSD-10.0_RC2-amd64-instal=
 l.img of=3D3D3D/dev/sdb bs=3D3D3D=3D<br>
 =C2=A08M conv=3D3D<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 =3D3D3Dsync<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;=C2=A0 I successfully booted to the installer with tha=
 t in both BIOS and EFI<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;=C2=A0 mode.=C2=A0 The USB stick was a 32 GB Kingston =
 DataTraveler and I used one<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;=C2=A0 of the two USB SS (USB 3.0) ports in the back.=
 =C2=A0 All I did was go to<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;=C2=A0 the boot selector menu (F12 when the Dell logo =
 comes up) and select<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;=C2=A0 USB there.<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;=C2=A0 Make sure you use the .img if you boot from USB=
 .=C2=A0 The .iso can only b=3D<br>
 =C2=A0e<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;=C2=A0 used to boot from an actual (physical or emulat=
 ed) optical drive, but<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;=C2=A0 not from a USB thumb drive.<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;=C2=A0 Can you test another thumb drive to see if it&#=
 39;s perhaps that?=C2=A0 And<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;=C2=A0 what error messages *exactly* are you seeing?<b=
 r>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Harold<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 --000000000000aaaaa7060f14e0a9<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D3D&quot;UTF-8&quot;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &lt;div dir=3D3D3D&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;I tried with a brand =
 new usb and i got the same messa=3D<br>
 =C2=A0ge<br>
 =C2=A0&gt; , =3D3D<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 its the only thing it shows when it tries to boot MEM and =
 some hex<br>
 =C2=A0&gt; addresse=3D3D<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 s nothing else&lt;div&gt;Also i tried to enable legacy boo=
 t on bios but it<br>
 =C2=A0&gt; doesn&amp;=3D3D<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 #39;t even tries to boot from the usb flash.&lt;/div&gt;&l=
 t;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div<br>
 =C2=A0&gt; class=3D3D3D&quot;g=3D3D<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 mail_quote&quot;&gt;&lt;div dir=3D3D3D&quot;ltr&quot;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt; class=3D3D3D&quot;gmail_attr&quot;&gt;=3D3DCE=3D3DA3=3D3DCF=3D3D=
 84=3D3DCE=3D3DB9=3D3DCF=3D3D82 =3D3D<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 =3D3DCE=3D3DA3=3D3DCE=3D3DAC=3D3DCE=3D3DB2 13 =3D3DCE=3D3D=
 99=3D3DCE=3D3DB1=3D3DCE=3D3DBD 2024 =3D<br>
 =C2=A0=3D3DCF=3D3D83=3D3DCF=3D3D84=3D3DCE=3D3DB9=3D3DCF=3D3D82<br>
 =C2=A0&gt; 2:35=3D3D<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 =3D3DE2=3D3D80=3D3DAF=3D3DCF=3D3D80.=3D3DCE=3D3DBC., =3D3D=
 CE=3D3DBF/=3D3DCE=3D3DB7 Harold Gutc=3D<br>
 =C2=A0h &amp;lt;&lt;a href=3D3D3D&quot;mailto:<br>
 =C2=A0&gt; l=3D3D<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 <a href=3D"mailto:ogix%foobar.franken.de@localhost"; target=3D"_blank=
 ">ogix%foobar.franken.de@localhost</a>&quot;&gt;<a href=3D"mailto:logix@foobar.franke=
 n.de" target=3D"_blank">logix%foobar.franken.de@localhost</a>&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt; =3D3DCE=3D3DAD=3D3DCE=3D3DB3=3D3DCF=3D3D81=3D3D<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 =3D3DCE=3D3DB1=3D3DCF=3D3D88=3D3DCE=3D3DB5:&lt;br&gt;&lt;/=
 div&gt;&lt;blockquote class=3D3D3D&quot;gmail_qu=3D<br>
 =C2=A0ote&quot;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt; style=3D3D3D&quot;mar=3D3D<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 gin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid<br>
 =C2=A0&gt; rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1=3D3D<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 ex&quot;&gt;The following reply was made to PR install/578=
 40; it has been noted<br>
 =C2=A0&gt; by =3D3D<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 GNATS.&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 From: Harold Gutch &amp;lt;&lt;a href=3D3D3D&quot;mailto:<=
 a href=3D"mailto:logix%foobar.franken.de@localhost"; target=3D"_blank">logix%foobar.fr@localhost=
 anken.de</a>&quot;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt; target=3D3D3D=3D3D<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &quot;_blank&quot;&gt;<a href=3D"mailto:logix@foobar.frank=
 en.de" target=3D"_blank">logix%foobar.franken.de@localhost</a>&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;b=
 r&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 To: &lt;a href=3D3D3D&quot;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:gnats-=
 bugs%netbsd.org@localhost" target=3D"_blank">gnats-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost</a>&quot;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt; target=3D3D3D&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;gnats-bugs@n=3D3D<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 <a href=3D"http://etbsd.org"; rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"=
 _blank">etbsd.org</a>&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 Cc: &lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 Subject: Re: install/57840: None of the NetBSD 10 RC2 imag=
 es or isos<br>
 =C2=A0&gt; works =3D3D<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 on my Intel i7-3770 Dell Optiplex 7010&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2024 01:32:58 +0100&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 =3D3DC2=3D3DA0Hi,&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 =3D3DC2=3D3DA0I just tested it on exactly that type of mac=
 hine, Dell Optiple=3D<br>
 =C2=A0x<br>
 =C2=A0&gt; 7010&lt;=3D3D<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 =3D3DC2=3D3DA0with i7-3770 (to be precise, this is a Slim =
 Tower variant,<br>
 =C2=A0&gt; somewhat&lt;b=3D3D<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 r&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 =3D3DC2=3D3DA0similar to the SFF variant but with 4 USB po=
 rts in the front *=3D<br>
 =C2=A0next<br>
 =C2=A0&gt; to=3D3D<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 =3D3DC2=3D3DA0each other in a row*), and it worked for me:=
 &lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 =3D3DC2=3D3DA0 =3D3DC2=3D3DA0wget &lt;a href=3D3D3D&quot;<=
 br>
 =C2=A0&gt; <a href=3D"https://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-10.0_=3D3D"; =
 rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetB=
 SD-10.0_=3D3D</a><br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 RC2/images/NetBSD-10.0_RC2-amd64-install.img.gz&quot; rel=
 =3D3D3D&quot;noreferrer&quot;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt; target=3D3D<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 =3D3D3D&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt; <a href=3D"https://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-10.0_RC2/ima=
 ges/NetBSD=3D3D" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://cdn.netbsd.or=
 g/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-10.0_RC2/images/NetBSD=3D3D</a><br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 -10.0_RC2-amd64-install.img.gz&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 =3D3DC2=3D3DA0 =3D3DC2=3D3DA0gunzip NetBSD-10.0_RC2-amd64-=
 install.img.gz&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 =3D3DC2=3D3DA0 =3D3DC2=3D3DA0dd if=3D3D3DNetBSD-10.0_RC2-a=
 md64-install.img of=3D3D3D=3D<br>
 =C2=A0/dev/sdb<br>
 =C2=A0&gt; bs=3D3D3D8=3D3D<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 M conv=3D3D3Dsync&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 =3D3DC2=3D3DA0I successfully booted to the installer with =
 that in both BIOS =3D<br>
 =C2=A0and<br>
 =C2=A0&gt; EFI=3D3D<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 =3D3DC2=3D3DA0mode.=3D3DC2=3D3DA0 The USB stick was a 32 G=
 B Kingston DataTravele=3D<br>
 =C2=A0r and I<br>
 =C2=A0&gt; use=3D3D<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 d one&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 =3D3DC2=3D3DA0of the two USB SS (USB 3.0) ports in the bac=
 k.=3D3DC2=3D3DA0 All I=3D<br>
 =C2=A0 did was<br>
 =C2=A0&gt; go=3D3D<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0to&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 =3D3DC2=3D3DA0the boot selector menu (F12 when the Dell lo=
 go comes up) and<br>
 =C2=A0&gt; select&lt;b=3D3D<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 r&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 =3D3DC2=3D3DA0USB there.&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 =3D3DC2=3D3DA0Make sure you use the .img if you boot from =
 USB.=3D3DC2=3D3DA0 The=3D<br>
 =C2=A0 .iso can<br>
 =C2=A0&gt; o=3D3D<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 nly be&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 =3D3DC2=3D3DA0used to boot from an actual (physical or emu=
 lated) optical dri=3D<br>
 =C2=A0ve,<br>
 =C2=A0&gt; but=3D3D<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 =3D3DC2=3D3DA0not from a USB thumb drive.&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 =3D3DC2=3D3DA0Can you test another thumb drive to see if i=
 t&amp;#39;s perhaps<br>
 =C2=A0&gt; that?=3D3DC2=3D3D<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 =3D3DA0 And&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 =3D3DC2=3D3DA0what error messages *exactly* are you seeing=
 ?&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 =3D3DC2=3D3DA0 =3D3DC2=3D3DA0Harold&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;=C2=A0 --000000000000aaaaa7060f14e0a9--<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
 <br>
 =C2=A0--0000000000006f6f05061051a52c<br>
 =C2=A0Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D&quot;UTF-8&quot;<br>
 =C2=A0Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable<br>
 <br>
 =C2=A0&lt;div dir=3D3D&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&lt;b style=3D3D&quot;&quot;&gt;I =
 will install a dvd drive from another pc i=3D<br>
 =C2=A0 don&amp;#39;t use i should done it already anyway.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div =
 style=3D3D&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;b style=3D<br>
 =C2=A0=3D3D&quot;&quot;&gt;But this problem must be solved&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/di=
 v&gt;&lt;div style=3D3D&quot;&quot;&gt;The only mod=3D<br>
 =C2=A0ification i made on my pc was to apply a bios patch so i can install =
 a pci =3D<br>
 =C2=A0express NVME SSD Drive.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=3D3D&quot;&quot;&gt;=
 Maybe something has to do with=3D<br>
 =C2=A0 it ? because another user said that it works on his pc.&lt;/div&gt;&=
 lt;div style=3D3D=3D<br>
 =C2=A0&quot;&quot;&gt;=3DC2=3DA0 =3DC2=3DA0Anyway i will try booting from a=
  dvd and see if it works !&lt;=3D<br>
 =C2=A0/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class=3D3D&quot;gmail_quote&quo=
 t;&gt;&lt;div dir=3D3D&quot;ltr&quot; class=3D3D&quot;gmail_a=3D<br>
 =C2=A0ttr&quot;&gt;=3DCE=3DA3=3DCF=3D84=3DCE=3DB9=3DCF=3D82 =3DCE=3DA4=3DCF=
 =3D81=3DCE=3DAF 16 =3DCE=3D99=3DCE=3DB1=3DCE=3DBD 2024=3D<br>
 =C2=A0 =3DCF=3D83=3DCF=3D84=3DCE=3DB9=3DCF=3D82 9:15=3DE2=3D80=3DAF=3DCE=3D=
 BC.=3DCE=3DBC., =3DCE=3DBF/=3DCE=3DB7 Xrhsta=3D<br>
 =C2=A0ras Xrhstaras2 &amp;lt;&lt;a href=3D3D&quot;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:=
 chrisfromgreece%gmail.com@localhost" target=3D"_blank">chrisfromgreece%gmail.com@localhost</a>&=
 quot;&gt;chrisfromgr=3D<br>
 =C2=A0<a href=3D"mailto:eece%gmail.com@localhost"; target=3D"_blank">eece%gmail.com@localhost</a=
 >&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; =3DCE=3DAD=3DCE=3DB3=3DCF=3D81=3DCE=3DB1=3DCF=3D88=3DCE=
 =3DB5:&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;bloc=3D<br>
 =C2=A0kquote class=3D3D&quot;gmail_quote&quot; style=3D3D&quot;margin:0px 0=
 px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:=3D<br>
 =C2=A01px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex&quot;&gt;The following re=
 ply was made t=3D<br>
 =C2=A0o PR install/57840; it has been noted by GNATS.&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0From: Xrhstaras Xrhstaras2 &amp;lt;&lt;a href=3D3D&quot;mailto:<a hre=
 f=3D"mailto:chrisfromgreece%gmail.com@localhost"; target=3D"_blank">chrisfromgreece@gm=
 ail.com</a>&quot;=3D<br>
 =C2=A0 target=3D3D&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;<a href=3D"mailto:chrisfromgreece@g=
 mail.com" target=3D"_blank">chrisfromgreece%gmail.com@localhost</a>&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;=
 &lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0To: &lt;a href=3D3D&quot;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:gnats-bugs@netbsd.o=
 rg" target=3D"_blank">gnats-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost</a>&quot; target=3D3D&quot;_bla=
 nk&quot;&gt;gnats-bugs@n=3D<br>
 =C2=A0<a href=3D"http://etbsd.org"; rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">etb=
 sd.org</a>&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0Cc: &lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0Subject: Re: install/57840: None of the NetBSD 10 RC2 images or isos =
 works =3D<br>
 =C2=A0on&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0my Intel i7-3770 Dell Optiplex 7010&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2024 21:09:54 +0200&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0--000000000000aaaaa7060f14e0a9&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D3D&amp;quot;UTF-8&amp;q=
 uot;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0I tried with a brand new usb and i got the same message , i=
 ts the onl=3D<br>
 =C2=A0y&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0thing it shows when it tries to boot MEM and some hex addre=
 sses nothi=3D<br>
 =C2=A0ng els=3D3D&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0e&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0Also i tried to enable legacy boot on bios but it doesn&amp=
 ;#39;t even tr=3D<br>
 =C2=A0ies to&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0boot from the usb flash.&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0=3D3DCE=3D3DA3=3D3DCF=3D3D84=3D3DCE=3D3DB9=3D3DCF=3D3D82 =
 =3D3DCE=3D3DA3=3D3DCE=3D3DAC=3D3DCE=3D3D=3D<br>
 =C2=A0B2 13 =3D3DCE=3D3D99=3D3DCE=3D3DB1=3D3DCE=3D3DBD 2024 =3D3DCF=3D3D&lt=
 ;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0=3D3D83=3D3DCF=3D3D84=3D3DCE=3D3DB9=3D3DCF=3D3D82 2:35=3D3D=
 E2=3D3D80=3D3DAF=3D3DCF=3D3D80.=3D3D=3D<br>
 =C2=A0CE=3D3DBC., =3D3DCE=3D3DBF/=3D3DCE=3D3DB7 Harold Gut=3D3D&lt;br&gt;<b=
 r>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0ch &amp;lt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&lt;a href=3D3D&quot;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:logix@foobar.=
 franken.de" target=3D"_blank">logix%foobar.franken.de@localhost</a>&quot; target=3D3D=
 &quot;_blank&quot;&gt;logix@fo=3D<br>
 =C2=A0<a href=3D"http://obar.franken.de"; rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blan=
 k">obar.franken.de</a>&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; =3D3DCE=3D3DAD=3D3DCE=3D3DB3=3D3DC=
 F=3D3D81=3D3DCE=3D3DB1=3D3DCF=3D3D88=3D<br>
 =C2=A0=3D3DCE=3D3DB5:&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;gt; The following reply was made to PR install/57840; =
 it has been no=3D<br>
 =C2=A0ted by&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;gt; GNATS.&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;gt; From: Harold Gutch &amp;lt;&lt;a href=3D3D&quot;ma=
 ilto:<a href=3D"mailto:logix%foobar.franken.de@localhost"; target=3D"_blank">logix@foo=
 bar.franken.de</a>=3D<br>
 =C2=A0&quot; target=3D3D&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;<a href=3D"mailto:logix@fooba=
 r.franken.de" target=3D"_blank">logix%foobar.franken.de@localhost</a>&lt;/a&gt;&amp;g=
 t;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;gt; To: &lt;a href=3D3D&quot;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:=
 gnats-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost" target=3D"_blank">gnats-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost</a>&quot; ta=
 rget=3D3D&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;g=3D<br>
 =C2=A0<a href=3D"mailto:nats-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost"; target=3D"_blank">nats-bugs@n=
 etbsd.org</a>&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;gt; Cc:&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;gt; Subject: Re: install/57840: None of the NetBSD 10 =
 RC2 images or =3D<br>
 =C2=A0isos work=3D3D&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0s&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;gt; on my Intel i7-3770 Dell Optiplex 7010&lt;br&gt;<b=
 r>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;gt; Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2024 01:32:58 +0100&lt;br&gt;<br=
 >
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;gt;=3DC2=3DA0 Hi,&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;gt;=3DC2=3DA0 I just tested it on exactly that type of=
  machine, Dell Opt=3D<br>
 =C2=A0iplex 7010&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;gt;=3DC2=3DA0 with i7-3770 (to be precise, this is a S=
 lim Tower variant,=3D<br>
 =C2=A0 somewhat&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;gt;=3DC2=3DA0 similar to the SFF variant but with 4 US=
 B ports in the fro=3D<br>
 =C2=A0nt *next to&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;gt;=3DC2=3DA0 each other in a row*), and it worked for=
  me:&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;gt;=3DC2=3DA0 =3DC2=3DA0 wget&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;gt; &lt;a href=3D3D&quot;<a href=3D"https://cdn.netbsd=
 .org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-10.0_RC2/ima=3D" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank=
 ">https://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-10.0_RC2/ima=3D</a><br>
 =C2=A0ges/NetBSD-10.0_RC2-=3D3D&quot; rel=3D3D&quot;noreferrer&quot; target=
 =3D3D&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;<a href=3D"https://cdn.n"; rel=3D"noreferrer" tar=
 get=3D"_blank">https://cdn.n</a>=3D<br>
 =C2=A0<a href=3D"http://etbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-10.0_RC2/images/NetBSD-=
 10.0_RC2-=3D3D" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">etbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/N=
 etBSD-10.0_RC2/images/NetBSD-10.0_RC2-=3D3D</a>&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0amd64-install.img.gz&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;gt;=3DC2=3DA0 =3DC2=3DA0 gunzip NetBSD-10.0_RC2-amd64-=
 install.img.gz&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;gt;=3DC2=3DA0 =3DC2=3DA0 dd if=3D3D3DNetBSD-10.0_RC2-a=
 md64-install.img of=3D3D3D=3D<br>
 =C2=A0/dev/sdb bs=3D3D3D8M conv=3D3D&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0=3D3D3Dsync&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;gt;=3DC2=3DA0 I successfully booted to the installer w=
 ith that in both B=3D<br>
 =C2=A0IOS and EFI&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;gt;=3DC2=3DA0 mode.=3DC2=3DA0 The USB stick was a 32 G=
 B Kingston DataTravele=3D<br>
 =C2=A0r and I used one&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;gt;=3DC2=3DA0 of the two USB SS (USB 3.0) ports in the=
  back.=3DC2=3DA0 All I=3D<br>
 =C2=A0 did was go to&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;gt;=3DC2=3DA0 the boot selector menu (F12 when the Del=
 l logo comes up) a=3D<br>
 =C2=A0nd select&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;gt;=3DC2=3DA0 USB there.&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;gt;=3DC2=3DA0 Make sure you use the .img if you boot f=
 rom USB.=3DC2=3DA0 The=3D<br>
 =C2=A0 .iso can only be&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;gt;=3DC2=3DA0 used to boot from an actual (physical or=
  emulated) optical=3D<br>
 =C2=A0 drive, but&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;gt;=3DC2=3DA0 not from a USB thumb drive.&lt;br&gt;<br=
 >
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;gt;=3DC2=3DA0 Can you test another thumb drive to see =
 if it&amp;#39;s perhap=3D<br>
 =C2=A0s that?=3DC2=3DA0 And&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;gt;=3DC2=3DA0 what error messages *exactly* are you se=
 eing?&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;gt;=3DC2=3DA0 =3DC2=3DA0 Harold&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0--000000000000aaaaa7060f14e0a9&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D3D&amp;quot;UTF-8&amp;qu=
 ot;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;lt;div dir=3D3D3D&amp;quot;ltr&amp;quot;&amp;gt;I trie=
 d with a brand new usb and i=3D<br>
 =C2=A0 got the same message , =3D3D&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0its the only thing it shows when it tries to boot MEM and s=
 ome hex ad=3D<br>
 =C2=A0dresse=3D3D&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0s nothing else&amp;lt;div&amp;gt;Also i tried to enable leg=
 acy boot on bios b=3D<br>
 =C2=A0ut it doesn&amp;amp;=3D3D&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0#39;t even tries to boot from the usb flash.&amp;lt;/div&am=
 p;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&amp;=3D<br>
 =C2=A0lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;div class=3D3D3D&amp;quot;g=3D3D&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0mail_quote&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;div dir=3D3D3D&amp;quot=
 ;ltr&amp;quot; class=3D3D3D&amp;quot;g=3D<br>
 =C2=A0mail_attr&amp;quot;&amp;gt;=3D3DCE=3D3DA3=3D3DCF=3D3D84=3D3DCE=3D3DB9=
 =3D3DCF=3D3D82 =3D3D&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0=3D3DCE=3D3DA3=3D3DCE=3D3DAC=3D3DCE=3D3DB2 13 =3D3DCE=3D3D9=
 9=3D3DCE=3D3DB1=3D3DCE=3D3DBD 2024=3D<br>
 =C2=A0 =3D3DCF=3D3D83=3D3DCF=3D3D84=3D3DCE=3D3DB9=3D3DCF=3D3D82 2:35=3D3D&l=
 t;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0=3D3DE2=3D3D80=3D3DAF=3D3DCF=3D3D80.=3D3DCE=3D3DBC., =3D3DC=
 E=3D3DBF/=3D3DCE=3D3DB7 Harold G=3D<br>
 =C2=A0utch &amp;amp;lt;&amp;lt;a href=3D3D3D&amp;quot;mailto:&lt;a href=3D3=
 D&quot;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:l"; target=3D"_blank">l</a>&quot; target=3D3=
 D&quot;_bl=3D<br>
 =C2=A0ank&quot;&gt;l&lt;/a&gt;=3D3D&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&lt;a href=3D3D&quot;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:ogix@foobar.f=
 ranken.de" target=3D"_blank">ogix%foobar.franken.de@localhost</a>&quot; target=3D3D&q=
 uot;_blank&quot;&gt;ogix@foob=3D<br>
 =C2=A0<a href=3D"http://ar.franken.de"; rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"=
 >ar.franken.de</a>&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;a href=3D3D&quot;mailto:<=
 a href=3D"mailto:logix%foobar.franken.de@localhost"; target=3D"_blank">logix%foobar.fr@localhost=
 anken.de</a>&quot; targe=3D<br>
 =C2=A0t=3D3D&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;<a href=3D"mailto:logix%foobar.franken.de@localhost=
 " target=3D"_blank">logix%foobar.franken.de@localhost</a>&lt;/a&gt;&amp;lt;/a&amp;gt;=
 &amp;amp;gt; =3D3DCE=3D3DAD=3D3DCE=3D<br>
 =C2=A0=3D3DB3=3D3DCF=3D3D81=3D3D&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0=3D3DCE=3D3DB1=3D3DCF=3D3D88=3D3DCE=3D3DB5:&amp;lt;br&amp;g=
 t;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&amp;lt;blockquote c=3D<br>
 =C2=A0lass=3D3D3D&amp;quot;gmail_quote&amp;quot; style=3D3D3D&amp;quot;mar=
 =3D3D&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0gin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204=
 );padding-=3D<br>
 =C2=A0left:1=3D3D&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0ex&amp;quot;&amp;gt;The following reply was made to PR inst=
 all/57840; it has =3D<br>
 =C2=A0been noted by =3D3D&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0GNATS.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0From: Harold Gutch &amp;amp;lt;&amp;lt;a href=3D3D3D&amp;qu=
 ot;mailto:&lt;a href=3D3D&quot;mai=3D<br>
 =C2=A0<a href=3D"mailto:lto%3Alogix%foobar.franken.de@localhost"; target=3D"_blank">lt=
 o:logix%foobar.franken.de@localhost</a>&quot; target=3D3D&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;<a hre=
 f=3D"mailto:logix%foobar.franken.de@localhost"; target=3D"_blank">logix@foobar.franken=
 .de</a>&lt;/a&gt;&amp;=3D<br>
 =C2=A0quot; target=3D3D3D=3D3D&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;quot;_blank&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;a href=3D3D&quot;mail=
 to:<a href=3D"mailto:logix%foobar.franken.de@localhost"; target=3D"_blank">logix@fooba=
 r.franken.de</a>&quot; targ=3D<br>
 =C2=A0et=3D3D&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;<a href=3D"mailto:logix@foobar.franken.d=
 e" target=3D"_blank">logix%foobar.franken.de@localhost</a>&lt;/a&gt;&amp;lt;/a&amp;gt=
 ;&amp;amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0To: &amp;lt;a href=3D3D3D&amp;quot;mailto:&lt;a href=3D3D&q=
 uot;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:gnats-bugs@netbsd.o"; target=3D"_blank">gnats-b=
 ugs@netbsd.o</a>=3D<br>
 =C2=A0rg&quot; target=3D3D&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;<a href=3D"mailto:gnats-bug=
 s%netbsd.org@localhost" target=3D"_blank">gnats-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost</a>&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quo=
 t; target=3D3D3D&amp;quot;_bla=3D<br>
 =C2=A0nk&amp;quot;&amp;gt;gnats-bugs@n=3D3D&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&lt;a href=3D3D&quot;<a href=3D"http://etbsd.org"; rel=3D"no=
 referrer" target=3D"_blank">http://etbsd.org</a>&quot; rel=3D3D&quot;norefe=
 rrer&quot; target=3D3D&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;etb=3D<br>
 =C2=A0<a href=3D"http://sd.org"; rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">sd.org=
 </a>&lt;/a&gt;&amp;lt;/a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0Cc: &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0Subject: Re: install/57840: None of the NetBSD 10 RC2 image=
 s or isos =3D<br>
 =C2=A0works =3D3D&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0on my Intel i7-3770 Dell Optiplex 7010&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt=
 ;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2024 01:32:58 +0100&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;=
 br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0=3D3DC2=3D3DA0Hi,&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0=3D3DC2=3D3DA0I just tested it on exactly that type of mach=
 ine, Dell Opti=3D<br>
 =C2=A0plex 7010&amp;lt;=3D3D&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0br&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0=3D3DC2=3D3DA0with i7-3770 (to be precise, this is a Slim T=
 ower variant, =3D<br>
 =C2=A0somewhat&amp;lt;b=3D3D&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0r&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0=3D3DC2=3D3DA0similar to the SFF variant but with 4 USB por=
 ts in the fron=3D<br>
 =C2=A0t *next to=3D3D&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0=3D3DC2=3D3DA0each other in a row*), and it worked for me:&=
 amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0=3D3DC2=3D3DA0 =3D3DC2=3D3DA0wget &amp;lt;a href=3D3D3D&amp=
 ;quot;&lt;a href=3D3D&quot;<a href=3D"https://cdn"; rel=3D"noreferrer" targe=
 t=3D"_blank">https://cdn</a>=3D<br>
 =C2=A0.<a href=3D"http://netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-10.0_=3D3D"; rel=3D"no=
 referrer" target=3D"_blank">netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-10.0_=3D3D</a>&quo=
 t; rel=3D3D&quot;noreferrer&quot; target=3D3D&quot;_blank=3D<br>
 =C2=A0&quot;&gt;<a href=3D"https://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-10.0_=
 =3D3D" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetB=
 SD/NetBSD-10.0_=3D3D</a>&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0RC2/images/NetBSD-10.0_RC2-amd64-install.img.gz&amp;quot; r=
 el=3D3D3D&amp;quot;n=3D<br>
 =C2=A0oreferrer&amp;quot; target=3D3D&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0=3D3D3D&amp;quot;_blank&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;a href=3D3D&qu=
 ot;<a href=3D"https://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetB=3D"; rel=3D"noreferrer" target=
 =3D"_blank">https://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetB=3D</a><br>
 =C2=A0SD/NetBSD-10.0_RC2/images/NetBSD=3D3D&quot; rel=3D3D&quot;noreferrer&=
 quot; target=3D3D&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;h=3D<br>
 =C2=A0ttps://<a href=3D"http://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-10.0_RC2/im=
 ages/NetBSD=3D3D" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">cdn.netbsd.org/pub/N=
 etBSD/NetBSD-10.0_RC2/images/NetBSD=3D3D</a>&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0-10.0_RC2-amd64-install.img.gz&amp;lt;/a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&=
 amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0=3D3DC2=3D3DA0 =3D3DC2=3D3DA0gunzip NetBSD-10.0_RC2-amd64-i=
 nstall.img.gz&amp;lt;b=3D<br>
 =C2=A0r&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0=3D3DC2=3D3DA0 =3D3DC2=3D3DA0dd if=3D3D3DNetBSD-10.0_RC2-am=
 d64-install.img of=3D<br>
 =C2=A0=3D3D3D/dev/sdb bs=3D3D3D8=3D3D&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0M conv=3D3D3Dsync&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0=3D3DC2=3D3DA0I successfully booted to the installer with t=
 hat in both BI=3D<br>
 =C2=A0OS and EFI=3D3D&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0=3D3DC2=3D3DA0mode.=3D3DC2=3D3DA0 The USB stick was a 32 GB=
  Kingston DataTrav=3D<br>
 =C2=A0eler and I use=3D3D&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0d one&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0=3D3DC2=3D3DA0of the two USB SS (USB 3.0) ports in the back=
 .=3D3DC2=3D3DA0 Al=3D<br>
 =C2=A0l I did was go=3D3D&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0 to&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0=3D3DC2=3D3DA0the boot selector menu (F12 when the Dell log=
 o comes up) an=3D<br>
 =C2=A0d select&amp;lt;b=3D3D&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0r&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0=3D3DC2=3D3DA0USB there.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0=3D3DC2=3D3DA0Make sure you use the .img if you boot from U=
 SB.=3D3DC2=3D3DA0 =3D<br>
 =C2=A0The .iso can o=3D3D&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0nly be&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0=3D3DC2=3D3DA0used to boot from an actual (physical or emul=
 ated) optical =3D<br>
 =C2=A0drive, but=3D3D&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0=3D3DC2=3D3DA0not from a USB thumb drive.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;=
 &lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0=3D3DC2=3D3DA0Can you test another thumb drive to see if it=
 &amp;amp;#39;s per=3D<br>
 =C2=A0haps that?=3D3DC2=3D3D&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0=3D3DA0 And&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0=3D3DC2=3D3DA0what error messages *exactly* are you seeing?=
 &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0=3D3DC2=3D3DA0 =3D3DC2=3D3DA0Harold&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br=
 &gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;<b=
 r>
 =C2=A0&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0=3DC2=3DA0--000000000000aaaaa7060f14e0a9--&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&lt;br&gt;<br>
 =C2=A0&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;<br>
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