Re: port-amd64/43833: SVR$ compat support missing for amd64

[Wolfgang Stukenbrock <Wolfgang.Stukenbrock%nagler-company.com@localhost>]

The following reply was made to PR port-amd64/43833; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Wolfgang Stukenbrock <Wolfgang.Stukenbrock%nagler-company.com@localhost>
To: gnats-bugs%NetBSD.org@localhost
Cc: port-amd64-maintainer%NetBSD.org@localhost, 
gnats-admin%NetBSD.org@localhost,
        netbsd-bugs%NetBSD.org@localhost, 
Wolfgang.Stukenbrock%nagler-company.com@localhost
Subject: Re: port-amd64/43833: SVR$ compat support missing for amd64
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 12:16:32 +0200

 Christos Zoulas wrote:
 
 > The following reply was made to PR port-amd64/43833; it has been noted by 
 > GNATS.
 > 
 > From: christos%zoulas.com@localhost (Christos Zoulas)
 > To: gnats-bugs%NetBSD.org@localhost, 
 > port-amd64-maintainer%netbsd.org@localhost, 
 >      gnats-admin%netbsd.org@localhost, netbsd-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost
 > Cc: 
 > Subject: Re: port-amd64/43833: SVR$ compat support missing for amd64
 > Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 06:48:23 -0400
 > 
 >  On Sep 3, 11:45am, Wolfgang.Stukenbrock%nagler-company.com@localhost 
 > (Wolfgang.Stukenbrock%nagler-company.com@localhost) wrote:
 >  -- Subject: port-amd64/43833: SVR$ compat support missing for amd64
 >  
 >  | >Number:         43833
 >  | >Category:       port-amd64
 >  | >Synopsis:       SVR$ compat support missing for amd64
 >  | >Confidential:   no
 >  | >Severity:       non-critical
 >  | >Priority:       medium
 >  | >Responsible:    port-amd64-maintainer
 >  | >State:          open
 >  | >Class:          change-request
 >  | >Submitter-Id:   net
 >  | >Arrival-Date:   Fri Sep 03 11:45:01 +0000 2010
 >  | >Originator:     W. Stukenbrock
 >  | >Release:        NetBSD 5.0.2
 >  | >Organization:
 >  | Dr. Nagler & Company GmbH
 >  |   
 >  | >Environment:
 >  |   
 >  |   
 >  | System: NetBSD s051 5.0.2 NetBSD 5.0.2 (NSW-S051) #2: Thu Aug 12 18:30:48 
 > CEST 2010 wgstuken@s051:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/NSW-S051 amd64
 >  | Architecture: x86_64
 >  | Machine: amd64
 >  | >Description:
 >  |   There is still no SVR4 compat support for this architecture.
 >  | 
 >  |   It would be very niche to have that in order to run Solaris X86 
 > binaries on a NetBSD system.
 >  | 
 >  |   My concrete problem is, that the JRE for linux (64 and 32) bit will not 
 > work reliable in the
 >  |   linux or linux32 emulations. There seems to be a timing problem during 
 > startup of the engine,
 >  |   so that it will crash most times. If the machine-code-compiler is 
 > deactivated on the command line
 >  |   for the java program, the JRE comes up most times - still not all the 
 > times.
 >  |   I simply hope that JRE would run much more stable on Solaris as it does 
 > on any Linux and that
 >  |   it would work in the emulation too.
 >  |   At the moment it is impossible to run a JRE on a NetBSD-5.0.2-amd64 
 > system in a reliable way.
 >  | 
 >  |   A quick-try from my side by just enabling the SVR4 compat in an amd64 
 > kernel shows, that
 >  |   (at least) some lines in files.amd64 are missing (see below) and that 
 > the machine dependen headerfiles
 >  |   svr4_machdep.h and svr4_32_machdep.h must be written.
 >  | 
 >  |   "missing" lines in files.amd64:
 >  | # SVR4 binary compatibility (COMPAT_SVR4)
 >  | include "compat/svr4/files.svr4"  
 >  | # file    arch/i386/i386/svr4_machdep.c           compat_svr4
 >  | # file    arch/i386/i386/svr4_sigcode.S           compat_svr4
 >  | # file    arch/i386/i386/svr4_syscall.c           compat_svr4
 >  | 
 >  | # SVR4 binary compatibility (COMPAT_SVR4_32)
 >  | include "compat/svr4_32/files.svr4_32"  
 >  | # file    arch/i386/i386/svr4_machdep.c           compat_svr4_32
 >  | # file    arch/i386/i386/svr4_sigcode.S           compat_svr4_32
 >  | # file    arch/i386/i386/svr4_syscall.c           compat_svr4_32
 >  |   END of missing lines
 >  | 
 >  |   Accedently my knowledge about the stack-frame differences of 32 and 64 
 > bit Intel-CPU's is nearly zero.
 >  |   So I cannot guess a valid svr4_*machdep.h file and try if the rest of 
 > the emulation is already working.
 >  | 
 >  
 >  Is there a place to download solaris binaries so we can test?
 >  
 >  Also the linux emulation works much better in NetBSD/current and also you
 >  can build native java binaries using the OpenJDK.
 >  
 >  christos
 >  
 > 
 
 
 Hi,
 
 you can download the complete Solaris (10/09) from the Oracle Website 
 for free. (e.g. www.sun.de -> download -> Oracle Solaris)
 (or www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/solaris/downloads)
 For the "commertial based" 10/09 it is required that you "register" at 
 this side.
 I hope this is not a problem.
 We are useing some Sun systems here and the only relevant question - as 
 far as I see - is the number of systems running. You may not 
 redistribute the software, but that's the same as for the Java stuff in 
 pkgsrc.
 
 A second way is to download the Opensolaris 2009.06 - either from the 
 side mentioned above or from www.opensolaris.org.
 
 The user-level libs offer the same functionality for (most) programs.
 
 
 Your hint to NetBSD/current is interesting, but I cannot (or I'm not 
 willing to) switch our productive environment to a development version.
 So this is only an option for a future release for now.
 
 Up to now I've missed the way to build the JRE from the JDK. I'm gooin 
 to have a look at this. Thanks for the hint.
 
 W. Stukenbrock