Subject: Re: port-sun3/33720: COMPAT_SUNOS kernel option not enabled by default on
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Date: 06/14/2006 09:26:56
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From: Izumi Tsutsui <tsutsui@ceres.dti.ne.jp>
To: port-sun3-maintainer@netbsd.org; gnats-admin@netbsd.org; netbsd-bugs@netbsd.org; sigmfsk@aol.com
Sent: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 10:10:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: port-sun3/33720: COMPAT_SUNOS kernel option not enabled by default on Net...


The following reply was made to PR port-sun3/33720; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Izumi Tsutsui <tsutsui@ceres.dti.ne.jp>
To: SigmFSK@aol.com
Cc: gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org, port-sun3-maintainer@NetBSD.org,
    gnats-admin@NetBSD.org, tsutsui@ceres.dti.ne.jp
Subject: Re: port-sun3/33720: COMPAT_SUNOS kernel option not enabled by default
     on Net...
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 19:06:19 +0900

 SigmFSK@aol.com wrote:
 
 > Good thinking.  I don't know if the kernel that was left in /netbsd  after 
 > the install was the INSTALL kernel or the GENERIC kernel.  Everything  worked 

 > other than running SunOS executables.
 
 You can see differences between GENERIC and INSTALL by config files,
 sys/arch/sun3/conf/{GENERIC,INSTALL}. One reason why install.md script
 installs INSTALL kernel may be that GENERIC won't boot on some less memory
 machines (like 3/50 with 4MB RAM), but not sure.
 
 > The /netbsd kernel did NOT have any "sunos" symbols shown by nm, but  
 > rebuilding the kernel showed them (and COMPAT_SUNOS worked).
 
 You can see the running kernel name in kernel log by dmesg(8)
 or output of "uname -v". Could you check again if the GENERIC
 binary in 3.0 actually has a problem on COMPAT_SUNOS?
 ---
 Izumi Tsutsui
 
 
Hi Izumi:
As you expected, the kernel that remained as /netbsd after the install was the INSTALL kernel.  Possiblythis problem should be converted into a documentation type problem.  For tape7 of the installI selected ftp://ftp4.us.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD/NetBSD-3.0/sun3/binary/kernel/netbsd-GENERIC.gzbut apparently it wasn't automatically installed.  What should I have done during the installto have the GENERIC kernel installed (other than loading syssrc.tar.gz and rebuilding from source)?
The following pages led me to believe that GENERIC would automatically be installed:ftp://ftp4.us.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD/NetBSD-3.0/sun3/INSTALL.htmlkern-GENERIC This set contains a NetBSD/sun3 3.0 GENERIC kernel, named /netbsd. You must install this distribution set. And: http://netbsd.org/Ports/sun3/faq.html (NetBSD/Sun3 features extensive binary compatibility with SunOS 4.1.xprograms. Static SunOS executables will run without any extra setup.)
thanks,arthur
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<DIV class=AOLPlainTextBody id=AOLMsgPart_0_31b64688-3163-451f-84f7-c5a80fcd6770><PRE><TT>The following reply was made to PR port-sun3/33720; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Izumi Tsutsui &lt;<A href="mailto:tsutsui%40ceres.dti.ne.jp">tsutsui@ceres.dti.ne.jp</A>&gt;
To: <A href="mailto:SigmFSK%40aol.com">SigmFSK@aol.com</A>
Cc: <A href="mailto:gnats-bugs%40NetBSD.org">gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org</A>, <A href="mailto:port-sun3-maintainer%40NetBSD.org">port-sun3-maintainer@NetBSD.org</A>,
    <A href="mailto:gnats-admin%40NetBSD.org">gnats-admin@NetBSD.org</A>, <A href="mailto:tsutsui%40ceres.dti.ne.jp">tsutsui@ceres.dti.ne.jp</A>
Subject: Re: port-sun3/33720: COMPAT_SUNOS kernel option not enabled by default
     on Net...
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 19:06:19 +0900

 <A href="mailto:SigmFSK%40aol.com">SigmFSK@aol.com</A> wrote:
 
 &gt; Good thinking.  I don't know if the kernel that was left in /netbsd  after 
 &gt; the install was the INSTALL kernel or the GENERIC kernel.  Everything  worked 

 &gt; other than running SunOS executables.
 
 You can see differences between GENERIC and INSTALL by config files,
 sys/arch/sun3/conf/{GENERIC,INSTALL}. One reason why install.md script
 installs INSTALL kernel may be that GENERIC won't boot on some less memory
 machines (like 3/50 with 4MB RAM), but not sure.
 
 &gt; The /netbsd kernel did NOT have any "sunos" symbols shown by nm, but  
 &gt; rebuilding the kernel showed them (and COMPAT_SUNOS worked).
 
 You can see the running kernel name in kernel log by dmesg(8)
 or output of "uname -v". Could you check again if the GENERIC
 binary in 3.0 actually has a problem on COMPAT_SUNOS?
 ---
 Izumi Tsutsui
 </TT></PRE><PRE><TT></TT>&nbsp;</PRE><PRE><TT>Hi Izumi:</TT></PRE><PRE><TT>As you expected, the kernel that remained as /netbsd after the install was the INSTALL kernel.  Possibly<BR></TT><TT>this problem should be converted into a documentation type problem.  For tape7 of the install<BR><BR>I selected ftp://ftp4.us.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD/NetBSD-3.0/sun3/binary/kernel/netbsd-GENERIC.gz">ftp://ftp4.us.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD/NetBSD-3.0/sun3/binary/kernel/netbsd-GENERIC.gz</A><BR><BR>but apparently it wasn't automatically installed.  What should I have done during the install<BR><BR>to have the GENERIC kernel installed (other than loading syssrc.tar.gz and rebuilding from source)?</TT></PRE><PRE><TT>The following pages led me to believe that GENERIC would automatically be installed:<BR><A href="ftp%#%#%ftp4.us.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD/NetBSD-3.0/sun3/INSTALL.html://<BR><DT><B></B><B">ftp://ftp4.us.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD/NetBSD-3.0/sun3/INSTALL.html<BR><DT><B></B><B
 >kern-GENERIC</B> <DD>This set contains a NetBSD/sun3 3.0 <CODE></CODE><CODE>GENERIC</CODE> kernel, named <CODE></CODE><CODE>/netbsd</CODE>. You <EM></EM><EM>must</EM> install this distribution set. <BR></DD><DD><BR><BR>And: ">http://netbsd.org/Ports/sun3/faq.html (NetBSD/Sun3 features extensive binary compatibility with SunOS 4.1.x<BR>programs. Static SunOS executables will run without any extra setup.)</TT></DD></PRE><PRE><TT>thanks,<BR><BR>arthur</TT></PRE></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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