Subject: RE: misc/33495: Offensive quote in netbsd fortune package
To: None <misc-bug-people@netbsd.org, gnats-admin@netbsd.org,>
From: Daniel Weiss <dweiss@alcor.concordia.ca>
List: netbsd-bugs
Date: 05/17/2006 13:50:02
The following reply was made to PR misc/33495; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: "Daniel Weiss" <dweiss@alcor.concordia.ca>
To: <gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org>, <misc-bug-people@NetBSD.org>,
	<gnats-admin@NetBSD.org>, <netbsd-bugs@NetBSD.org>
Cc: <dabrams@alcor.concordia.ca>
Subject: RE: misc/33495: Offensive quote in netbsd fortune package
Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 09:45:40 -0400

 	
 Good morning,
 
 Christos Zoulas says:
 
 "Well, we have to draw the line somewhere on what is offensive or not."
 
 You bring up a valid point. Please note the response I received from one of
 your support team.
 
 Hauke Fath says:
 
 "Choose only from potentially offensive aphorisms."
 
 A highly intelligent man should take a primitive woman.  Imagine if on top
 of everything else, I had a woman who interfered with my work.
                  -- Adolf Hitler
  
  A woman must be a cute, cuddly, naive little thing -- tender, sweet,  and
 stupid.
                  -- Adolf Hitler
 
 
 There's a good spot to draw the line. It is discriminatory to over half of
 the world's population. Not to mention all the ethnicities Hitler tried to
 wipe out. I'm asking that you think before selecting the quotations as your
 actions affect others.
 
 "I have moved the two offensive fortunes to
  fortunes2-o, but I have left the non-offensive ones alone"
 
 Perhaps I wasn't %100 clear. Hitler is part of the offensive quote. The
 scary thing is I feel as though I've hit a nerve with some people. Is there
 really no one else you revere to quote in the fortune's program? 
 
 Have a good day,
 Dan
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
 From: Christos Zoulas [mailto:christos@zoulas.com] 
 Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 6:35 PM
 To: misc-bug-people@NetBSD.org; gnats-admin@NetBSD.org;
 netbsd-bugs@NetBSD.org; dweiss@alcor.concordia.ca
 Subject: RE: misc/33495: Offensive quote in netbsd fortune package
 
 The following reply was made to PR misc/33495; it has been noted by GNATS.
 
 From: christos@zoulas.com (Christos Zoulas)
 To: gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org, misc-bug-people@netbsd.org,
 	gnats-admin@netbsd.org, netbsd-bugs@netbsd.org,
 	dweiss@alcor.concordia.ca
 Cc: 
 Subject: RE: misc/33495: Offensive quote in netbsd fortune package
 Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 18:31:18 -0400
 
  On May 16,  9:10pm, dweiss@alcor.concordia.ca ("Daniel Weiss") wrote:
  -- Subject: RE: misc/33495: Offensive quote in netbsd fortune package
  
  | The following reply was made to PR misc/33495; it has been noted by
 GNATS.
  | 
  | From: "Daniel Weiss" <dweiss@alcor.concordia.ca>
  | To: <gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org>
  | Cc: 
  | Subject: RE: misc/33495: Offensive quote in netbsd fortune package
  | Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 15:01:36 -0400
  | 
  |  Hi thanks for getting back to me so quickly. The particular quote that I
  |  found offensive had something to do with women being dumb or stupid and
 was
  |  very obviously discriminatory to women. Also, the fact that Adolph
 Hitler
  |  was chosen as the man to quote... There are so many great people to
 quote in
  |  the world. Adolph Hitler happens to have killed close to 18 million
 people
  |  all within the last century. I think many of the worlds workers would
 find
  |  it very unpleasant to log onto their workstation and have good morning
 come
  |  from Hitler. Especially people that have suffered the loss of a family
  |  member in the holocaust, this is extremely upsetting. I hope this helps
  |  clarify the situation.
  |  Dan
  
  Well, we have to draw the line somewhere on what is offensive or not.
  I am all for free speech and I don't believe in banning books to avoid
  poisoning people's minds. I have moved the two offensive fortunes to
  fortunes2-o, but I have left the non-offensive ones alone. Remember there
  are quotes from Stalin too in the fortunes database, where do we stop?
  
  christos