Subject: RE: misc/33495: Offensive quote in netbsd fortune package
To: , <misc-bug-people@NetBSD.org>
From: Daniel Weiss <dweiss@alcor.concordia.ca>
List: netbsd-bugs
Date: 05/17/2006 09:45:40
	
Good morning,

Christos Zoulas says:

"Well, we have to draw the line somewhere on what is offensive or not."

You bring up a valid point. Please note the response I received from one of
your support team.

Hauke Fath says:

"Choose only from potentially offensive aphorisms."

A highly intelligent man should take a primitive woman.  Imagine if on top
of everything else, I had a woman who interfered with my work.
                 -- Adolf Hitler
 
 A woman must be a cute, cuddly, naive little thing -- tender, sweet,  and
stupid.
                 -- Adolf Hitler


There's a good spot to draw the line. It is discriminatory to over half of
the world's population. Not to mention all the ethnicities Hitler tried to
wipe out. I'm asking that you think before selecting the quotations as your
actions affect others.

"I have moved the two offensive fortunes to
 fortunes2-o, but I have left the non-offensive ones alone"

Perhaps I wasn't %100 clear. Hitler is part of the offensive quote. The
scary thing is I feel as though I've hit a nerve with some people. Is there
really no one else you revere to quote in the fortune's program? 

Have a good day,
Dan


-----Original Message-----
From: Christos Zoulas [mailto:christos@zoulas.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 6:35 PM
To: misc-bug-people@NetBSD.org; gnats-admin@NetBSD.org;
netbsd-bugs@NetBSD.org; dweiss@alcor.concordia.ca
Subject: RE: misc/33495: Offensive quote in netbsd fortune package

The following reply was made to PR misc/33495; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: christos@zoulas.com (Christos Zoulas)
To: gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org, misc-bug-people@netbsd.org,
	gnats-admin@netbsd.org, netbsd-bugs@netbsd.org,
	dweiss@alcor.concordia.ca
Cc: 
Subject: RE: misc/33495: Offensive quote in netbsd fortune package
Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 18:31:18 -0400

 On May 16,  9:10pm, dweiss@alcor.concordia.ca ("Daniel Weiss") wrote:
 -- Subject: RE: misc/33495: Offensive quote in netbsd fortune package
 
 | The following reply was made to PR misc/33495; it has been noted by
GNATS.
 | 
 | From: "Daniel Weiss" <dweiss@alcor.concordia.ca>
 | To: <gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org>
 | Cc: 
 | Subject: RE: misc/33495: Offensive quote in netbsd fortune package
 | Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 15:01:36 -0400
 | 
 |  Hi thanks for getting back to me so quickly. The particular quote that I
 |  found offensive had something to do with women being dumb or stupid and
was
 |  very obviously discriminatory to women. Also, the fact that Adolph
Hitler
 |  was chosen as the man to quote... There are so many great people to
quote in
 |  the world. Adolph Hitler happens to have killed close to 18 million
people
 |  all within the last century. I think many of the worlds workers would
find
 |  it very unpleasant to log onto their workstation and have good morning
come
 |  from Hitler. Especially people that have suffered the loss of a family
 |  member in the holocaust, this is extremely upsetting. I hope this helps
 |  clarify the situation.
 |  Dan
 
 Well, we have to draw the line somewhere on what is offensive or not.
 I am all for free speech and I don't believe in banning books to avoid
 poisoning people's minds. I have moved the two offensive fortunes to
 fortunes2-o, but I have left the non-offensive ones alone. Remember there
 are quotes from Stalin too in the fortunes database, where do we stop?
 
 christos