FYI, The document at: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=7970 describes a fairly serious bug in *scanf which you guys also have, the fix is trivial. Niall -- Niall Smart, rotel@indigo.ie. Amaze your friends and annoy your enemies: echo '#define if(x) if (!(x))' >> /usr/include/stdio.h