On Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 11:23:04AM -0500, David Hopper wrote:
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> Easy, now.  With an attitude like that, one might ask why two NEC MIPS 
> servers, a Motorola PPC 133 box, three Alphas, an Amiga 3000, and one 
> Commodore PET 2000 are a valuable use of electricity...  But then you'd 
> be my wife.

Or you could be asking why one AlphaStation 600 5/266, one Ultra5, and a
Pentium 66 were valuable uses of electricity, then you'd be my mother :P
(just for the sake of curiosity, what IS a Commodore PET 2000? :-)

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> :)
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> David Hopper
> Director
> Global Event Services, Inc.
> work (425) 867-1422 x12
> http://www.gesi.net/
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> On Mar 12, 2004, at 10:17 AM, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
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> >
> > Floyd Dbird <dbird@language.bin.org> writes:
> >> MD5CRK is a new distributed computing project that is supposed to
> >> show the weakness of md5, much like the des crack challenges back in
> >> 1998 or so showed the weaknesses of DES.
> >>
> >> I arranged for them to produce a netbsd i386 port of the client at 
> >> least.
> >
> > Why is this a valuable use of CPUs and electricity?
> >
> > Cracking DES was valuable because many claimed it could not be done
> > even though it was known weak. Cracking RC5 and finding MD5
> > collisions seems much less useful.
> >
> > pm
> >
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> Easy, now.  With an attitude like that, one might ask why two NEC MIPS
> servers, a Motorola PPC 133 box, three Alphas, an Amiga 3000, and one
> Commodore PET 2000 are a valuable use of electricity...  But then
> you'd be my wife.
> 
> 
> :)
> 
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> <bold><fontfamily><param>Trebuchet MS</param>David Hopper
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> Director
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> Global Event Services, Inc.
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> work (425) 867-1422 x12
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> http://www.gesi.net/
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> On Mar 12, 2004, at 10:17 AM, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
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> <excerpt>
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> Floyd Dbird <<dbird@language.bin.org> writes:
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> <excerpt>MD5CRK is a new distributed computing project that is
> supposed to
> 
> show the weakness of md5, much like the des crack challenges back in
> 
> 1998 or so showed the weaknesses of DES.
> 
> 
> I arranged for them to produce a netbsd i386 port of the client at
> least.
> 
> </excerpt>
> 
> Why is this a valuable use of CPUs and electricity?
> 
> 
> Cracking DES was valuable because many claimed it could not be done
> 
> even though it was known weak. Cracking RC5 and finding MD5
> 
> collisions seems much less useful.
> 
> 
> pm
> 
> 
> </excerpt>
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-Sean

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