Subject: Re: Permission to use the NetBSD logo
To: Iggy Drougge <optimus@canit.se>
From: Jim Wise <jwise@draga.com>
List: netbsd-advocacy
Date: 03/13/2002 21:15:42
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On 14 Mar 2002, Iggy Drougge wrote:

>Herb Peyerl skrev:
>
>>This is what bugs me about this whole line of discussion.  There's
>>no shortage of people willing to say "lots of people could be
>>offended by this image" but in the 10-ish years I've been involved
>>in NetBSD, I can remember only 2 instances of someone actually
>>being offended.
>
>I must say that I'm not very fond of the current symbol either, since it's
>based on a piece of war-time propaganda.
>While I was on a walk, I came to think of a similar motif, but without the
>same political connotations, namely the famous picture from the French
>revolution, featuring that bare-breasted woman holding a flag, surrounded by
>struggling citizens. It retains the same basic picture of a struggle, contains
>a flag, but doesn't relate to war.

How very odd.  So an image of soldiers fighting to preserve liberty and
democracy who _actually achieved_ liberation of huge stretches of the
world, and who fought with such an interest in democracy, not conquest,
that a generation later their children and the children of those who
they fought are living in prosperous democracies and collaborating on
Open Source products is `propaganda'.  But an image of a revolution
fought in the name of leveling and forced reshaping of human nature
which resulted in the Reign of Terror and a century of aftershocks is a
good symbol.

I'm quite sure that I don't understand your thought process here...

For the record, here's what I posted on the matter on another list,
before this got crossposted:

  For what it's worth, I've come around to pretty much complete
  agreement with all of these points.  In particular, to make a parody
  of a famous image of people fighting and dying for liberty and
  democracy, and use that to represent people hacking and flaming for
  what in the end is only a codebase seems suboptimal.

  NetBSD is cool.  But it is, of necessity, on a somewhat different
  plane than the raising of the flag over Suribachi.

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				Jim Wise
				jwise@draga.com

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