Subject: Re: Look and feel
To: NetBSD/advocacy <netbsd-advocacy@netbsd.org>
From: Iggy Drougge <optimus@canit.se>
List: netbsd-advocacy
Date: 02/25/2002 00:24:56
Charles Shannon Hendrix skrev:

>On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 02:49:49PM +0100, Iggy Drougge wrote:

>> IMNSHO, a GUI shouldn't require machines running at several hundred MHz.
>> It's just a very basic system service, not a killer app in itself.

>The GUI, sure, but that's not really the bottleneck for things like
>KDE.  The window manager itself is plenty fast, even with toys added.
>The problem is mostly in the individual applications, and the rather
>poor C++ program startup times.

I found KDE to run (and particularly start) at a snail's pace on a 300 MHz PC.
Even last week, a friend of mine stated that his 900 MHz PC GUI couldn't match
the response times of his Amiga.

>In any case, there are a good number of useful things that simply require
>a lot of horsepower.

Certainly, but the question is whether you actually happen to do those things.
I left raytracing many years ago, so MHz isn't all that important to me.

>If you take photos, you are going to be hard pressed to do much with
>them unless you have enough power to handle multi-megabyte images of
>24-bit or better color.

Possibly, but that's an application with requirements of its own. If your
desktop environment is doing image manipulation, it's a very strange desktop
environment indeed.

>People also want that kind of quality even in the window manager, so
>you end up with a system like Apple's where each image on the screen is
>a full N-bit color image.  There's just no way to support that sort of
>thing without a lot of horsepower.

There isn't? You don't think it could be that Apple want to sell faster
hardware?

>I liked the SGI I used with all the management stuff in 8-bit color
>and only things you needed to take up a lot of space did so, but that's
>evidently not what everyone else likes.

I like the SGI vector icons. They're just lovely.

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