On 18 Jan, Terry Lambert wrote:
> Minor nits:
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>> Again, the start was 386BSD, then the "Unoffical Patch Kit".
>> The UPK was written by Terry Lambert, then run by Dave Burgess
>> and later Rodney Grimes. Jordan Hubbart was also a main person into.
>> Jordan was one of the founders of FreeBSD. 
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> Rodney Grimes, then Nate Williams and Jordan Hubbard.  Dave
> Burgess took over the "Unofficial FAQ" from me before I handed
> off the patchkit.
> 
Thanks for the correction Terry.

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>> NetBSD pulled out early from the 386BSD effort. Their direction
>> was based on BSD tradition; make run on everything. Again, they
>> left mostly because of tensions between the authors of 386BSD
>> and the UPK. That is, people were making fixes to 386BSD, but
>> the only way to incorporate them for more that 1 1/2 year was
>> the UPK.
>> 
>> The UPK had many problems it was a disaster (Sorry Terry).
>> The UPK was never intended to run for more than a few months,
>> but one (1) year later it was the only to get things to work.
> 
> It was a very basic version control system, which relied on a
> human being, rather than software, to ensure that order of
> operation was maintained.
> 
> Contrary to your repeated opinion of my intent in writing the
> scripts which created, managed, and installed the patches, the
> software itself was intended to last a very long time.  It is
> still in use today at at least 6 commercial organizations, none
> of which, incidently, I ever worked for: the code was adopted
> on its merits.
> 
Thanks for that correction also, Terry. 
I'll make note of that in the future.

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>> In a sense, alot of the bad blood is Bill's fault, but
>> other people (including myself) must share the blame.
>> I could have done more at the time to mend fences, but
>> I knew that the community could not move forward
>> without a commone enemy. The eventually found one.
>> It was Bill and Lynn Jolitz, the original authors
>> of 386BSD.
> 
> I disagree.  The "bad blood", what there is of it, is the
> result of a fringe of volatile personalities, which have
> mostly been purged from the natural chokepoints of the
> various BSD-derived projects.
> 
> I really don't buy the "common enemy" theory for most
> events in the Open Source community; the only place that
> really applies is in a project "split", and that generally
> only happens as a result of very strong ideological reasons.
> 
We can discuss this theory at a later time Terry.

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I thank Terry Lambert for his corrections and comments.
Evidence by this time shows the bad blood I was talking
about. (ie. the snipping about the tape driver)

As may be evident there is along way to go. I don't
expect that within my life time this effort will resolve
enough differences so that we will have one (1) BSD.
However, in retrospect(sp?) and after meeting with
members of the NetBSD, OpenBSD and Darwin groups it
is my belief that BSD is only stronger by these
different, if not divided, efforts. For as each
group evolves (and this is where Terry and I differ
in opinion, That is I say evolve)  we will see 
different approaches to different problems. 
Meanwhile *BSD continues to grow now in the
real world vs. the previous academinc environment.


				Best Regards,
				Jessem.