Subject: Re: Free Canadian hosting of NetBSD International with strong crypto.
To: Alicia da Conceicao <>
From: David Maxwell <>
List: netbsd-advocacy
Date: 07/06/1999 14:40:32
On Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 05:01:28PM +0000, Alicia da Conceicao wrote:
> David Maxwell wrote:
> > The license always states (from a Canadian perspective)
> > (paraphrased) "You can export strong crypto from the US to Canada,
> > but the recipient (The Canadian citizen) must agree not to re-export
> > that to anywhere outside the US or Canada."
> Okay, so there may be some hesitation by Americans to export to Canada.
> Then why not let me set up a machine with a NetBSD mirror.  I simply
> use a bot to log in to an American server, and copy the files onto a
> Canadian server.  That way, only I am the one doing the exporting.
> And since I don't care about stupid US laws, my company and I am more
> than willing to accept the consequences.  Would that be acceptable to
> all?

However, it is a Canadian law too. As I understand it, it's part of our
signing of the ITAR stuff, so I believe you could be prosecuted in
Canada, or at least Canada would be required to allow your extradition
for prosecutuion in the US.

> > That statement has been so clear in every script I've seen, I don't
> > understand how the OpenBSD people feel they can ignore that.
> Mind you if the US really wanted to cut down on violence and terrorism,
> they should restrict guns, not crypto.  I think the OpenBSD people are
> correct in ignoring it, since the US export laws are dubious, and I don't
> think there has ever been a conviction against a US citizen, with respect
> to exporting strong crypto in open source products.

Argueing that the law is wrong, doesn't make it legal to break it.

David Maxwell,| -->
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