-burghardt@gmx.de wrote:
> Hello Glen,
>
> I'm new to NetBSD - so I tried your way to fetch the tar_files with sup (I never
> used sup before ... so I tried it and used your sup-file after I had a closer
> look at sup) - that was yesterday.
>
> I ended up with the same result so I fetched the sources one more time after I saw
> sup fetched tar_files that were quiet "old". This time from:
>
> 	ftp://ftp.de.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-current/tar_files/src/
>
> untared them - chanced to /usr/src - updated the sources with
>
> cvs -q update -dP
>
> After this I upgraded my system (i386) using build.sh with the "distribution" and after
> this "install=/" ... and had a closer look to everything that is in /etc by
> using etcupdate(8) ... everything went fine without any problems (for the first
> time to me).
>
> That was around 12 hours ago ...
>
> I don't know why I ended up with the same result as you with those "old" sources -
> perhaps there was a problem while cvs patched files that changed ... but this
> worked for me.
>
> Best regards,
>
>     Andreas Burghardt
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 17, 2007 at 10:25:09AM -0500, Glen Johnson wrote:
>   
>> Good day,
>> I am trying to compile the latest NetBSD 4.0 kernel in an attempt to do
>> a little testing.  According to
>> http://netbsd.org/Documentation/current/#downloading.
>>
>>
>>       Note
>>
>> It is almost always faster for a first-time "whole source" checkout to
>> FTP the tarballs <http://netbsd.org/Documentation/current/#downloading>
>> and untar them locally because that makes best use of the network link.
>> After that, using cvs checkout/update works to minimize the number of
>> bytes coming over by sending only the changes.
>>
>> I decided to take this advise and use sup at the same time.  So I used
>> sup to download the latest release-4-0 tar files.  Below is the sup file
>> I used.
>> release-4-0 release=tar_files host=sup.NetBSD.org hostbase=/ftp/pub \
>> base=./ prefix=./ backup use-rel-suffix compress
>>
>> This worked wonderfully!  I then un-tarred the files, did chmod +x
>> build.sh, and executed ./build.sh tools.  After some processing the
>> tools build died.  Below is part of that output.
>>
>>
>> #      link  tsort/tsort
>> cc -O -I/home/glen/src/c/netbsd/tars/src/tools/compat/obj
>> -I/home/glen/src/c/netbsd/tars/src/tools/compat/obj/include 
>> -I/home/glen/src/c/netbsd/tars/src/tools/tsort/../compat
>> -DHAVE_NBTOOL_CONFIG_H=1  -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64    -o tsort tsort.lo
>> -L/home/glen/src/c/netbsd/tars/src/tools/compat/obj -lnbcompat -lz
>> dependall ===> uudecode
>> #    create  uudecode/uudecode.d
>> /home/glen/src/c/netbsd/tars/src/tooldir.NetBSD-3.1-i386/bin/nbhost-mkdep
>> -f uudecode.d --     -I/home/glen/src/c/netbsd/tars/src/tools/compat/obj
>> -I/home/glen/src/c/netbsd/tars/src/tools/compat/obj/include 
>> -I/home/glen/src/c/netbsd/tars/src/tools/uudecode/../compat
>> -DHAVE_NBTOOL_CONFIG_H=1  -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64  
>> /home/glen/src/c/netbsd/tars/src/tools/uudecode/../../usr.bin/uudecode/uudecode.c
>> #    create  uudecode/.depend
>> rm -f .depend
>> /home/glen/src/c/netbsd/tars/src/tooldir.NetBSD-3.1-i386/bin/nbhost-mkdep
>> -d -f .depend -s .lo\ .ln uudecode.d
>> #   compile  uudecode/uudecode.lo
>> cc -O -I/home/glen/src/c/netbsd/tars/src/tools/compat/obj
>> -I/home/glen/src/c/netbsd/tars/src/tools/compat/obj/include 
>> -I/home/glen/src/c/netbsd/tars/src/tools/uudecode/../compat
>> -DHAVE_NBTOOL_CONFIG_H=1  -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64  -c -o uudecode.lo.o   
>> /home/glen/src/c/netbsd/tars/src/usr.bin/uudecode/uudecode.c
>> mv uudecode.lo.o uudecode.lo
>> #      link  uudecode/uudecode
>> cc -O -I/home/glen/src/c/netbsd/tars/src/tools/compat/obj
>> -I/home/glen/src/c/netbsd/tars/src/tools/compat/obj/include 
>> -I/home/glen/src/c/netbsd/tars/src/tools/uudecode/../compat
>> -DHAVE_NBTOOL_CONFIG_H=1  -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64    -o uudecode
>> uudecode.lo -L/home/glen/src/c/netbsd/tars/src/tools/compat/obj
>> -lnbcompat -lz
>> dependall ===> texinfo
>> /home/glen/src/c/netbsd/tars/src/tools/texinfo/../../gnu/dist/texinfo/configure:
>> 1: Syntax error: ")" unexpected
>>
>> *** Failed target:  .configure_done
>> *** Failed command: (cd build && CC=cc CFLAGS=-O CPPFLAGS= CXX=c++
>> CXXFLAGS=-O
>> INSTALL=/home/glen/src/c/netbsd/tars/src/tooldir.NetBSD-3.1-i386/bin/nbinstall\
>> -c\ \ -r LDFLAGS= AR=ar RANLIB=ranlib
>> LEX=/home/glen/src/c/netbsd/tars/src/tooldir.NetBSD-3.1-i386/bin/nblex
>> MAKE=/home/glen/src/c/netbsd/tars/src/tooldir.NetBSD-3.1-i386/bin/nbmake
>> PATH="/home/glen/src/c/netbsd/tars/src/tooldir.NetBSD-3.1-i386/bin:$PATH"
>> YACC=/home/glen/src/c/netbsd/tars/src/tooldir.NetBSD-3.1-i386/bin/nbyacc
>> sh
>> /home/glen/src/c/netbsd/tars/src/tools/texinfo/../../gnu/dist/texinfo/configure
>> --program-prefix=nb
>> --prefix=/home/glen/src/c/netbsd/tars/src/tooldir.NetBSD-3.1-i386)
>> *** Error code 2
>>
>> Stop.
>> nbmake: stopped in /home/glen/src/c/netbsd/tars/src/tools/texinfo
>>
>> *** Failed target:  dependall
>> *** Failed command: cd /home/glen/src/c/netbsd/tars/src/tools/texinfo;
>> /home/glen/src/c/netbsd/tars/src/tooldir.NetBSD-3.1-i386/bin/nbmake realall
>> *** Error code 1
>>
>> Stop.
>> nbmake: stopped in /home/glen/src/c/netbsd/tars/src/tools/texinfo
>>
>> *** Failed target:  dependall-texinfo
>> *** Failed command: _makedirtarget() { dir="$1"; shift; target="$1";
>> shift; case "${dir}" in /*) this="${dir}/"; real="${dir}" ;; .) this="";
>> real="/home/glen/src/c/netbsd/tars/src/tools" ;; *) this="${dir}/";
>> real="/home/glen/src/c/netbsd/tars/src/tools/${dir}" ;; esac;
>> show=${this:-.}; echo "${target} ===> ${show%/}${1:+ (with: $@)}"; cd
>> "${real}" &&
>> /home/glen/src/c/netbsd/tars/src/tooldir.NetBSD-3.1-i386/bin/nbmake
>> _THISDIR_="${this}" "$@" ${target}; }; _makedirtarget texinfo dependall
>> *** Error code 1
>>
>> Stop.
>> nbmake: stopped in /home/glen/src/c/netbsd/tars/src/tools
>>
>> ERROR: Failed to make dependall tools
>> *** BUILD ABORTED ***
>>
>> Any pointers? 
>> Am I still not downloading something that I need in the source somewhere? 
>> Or is this one of those cases where you just don't do it that way?
>>
>> I would like to compile this kernel and do some testing on it too.  I
>> know any time testing is done by someone else they do it a little bit
>> different, which is where many times bugs turn up.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Glen Johnson
>>     
>
>
>   
Mr. Burghardt,
Thanks for your reply, I gave up on SUP and used ftp instead.  Like you
wrote, no problems with the ftp version.  Is SUP being actively used at
this point for NetBSD?  Or maybe it is just the server sup.netbsd.org. 
So far NetBSD-4-0Beta 2 looks good!  I just compiled my kernel and am
testing it on my AMD 386DX with 8MB of RAM.  I think the last time I
actually tried to compile the kernel on it, it took 4 days!  NetBSD
thanks for setting up the build.sh system!  It now takes about 30
seconds to compile my modified GENERIC_TINY kernel.
Good day,
Glen Johnson