On Mon, 1 Nov 2004, Richard Earnshaw wrote:

> On Mon, 2004-11-01 at 12:59, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>> On Mon, 1 Nov 2004, Richard Earnshaw wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 2004-11-01 at 12:07, Sean Davis wrote:
>>>
>>>> And the Daemon is no more FreeBSD than it was NetBSD, or even than it
>>>> was OpenBSD before they went to their blowfish logo, which I hate, but
>>>> I'm sorry to say is quite a lot better than our new "Orange Flag"
>>>> logo.
>>>> The Daemon was BSD. Plain and simple. People who thought it was only
>>>> FreeBSD weren't the type of people who'd notice NetBSD in the first
>>>> place anyhow.
>>>
>>> If, by the 'Daemon', you mean Beastie, then I think you'll find that the
>>> copyright on it is held by Marshall Kirk McKusick
>>> (http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/daemon.html).
>>>
>>> Now you might not care about IP law suits, but I'm glad to hear that TNF
>>> does.
>>
>> Huh? Do you mean that NetBSD suddenly weren't allowed to use the demon,
>> and that McKusick threatened to sue NetBSD???
>
> I've no idea whether he threatened to or not, but that's not relevant:
> TNF clearly doesn't hold any rights to the Daemon, and it's generally a
> bad idea to rely on the good will of another agent in these conditions;
> especially when that agent is associated with a different group
> operating in a similar field.

Obviously FreeBSD don't see it the same way. Atleast I can't find 
McKusicks name among the FreeBSD release engineering people.
And work McKusick have done lately looks like it has been used in all 
BSD-derived systems.

I'd be rather surprised if this actually was a reason for avoiding the 
daemon. If it is so, we really should drop the "BSD" moniker as well. That 
should be an even hotter potato than the daemon.

 	Johnny

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