Subject: Re: today's openssh version 3.7
To: None <current-users@NetBSD.org>
From: William Allen Simpson <wsimpson@greendragon.com>
List: current-users
Date: 09/18/2003 14:09:58
"Perry E. Metzger" wrote:
> pkgsrc is very much a separate world from the base NetBSD code. It has
> a different build system designed for dealing with third party
> packages and somewhat different goals (given its multiplatform
> nature).
> 
> I agree that the current packaging of the base system, especially for
> handling things like upgrades and security fixes, is woefully
> inadequate, but that's another story entirely.
> 
To take the second issue first, that's how this thread started -- asking 
about the upgrades and security fixes!  Folks pointed at the openssh 
package (and I tried it).  So, that *IS* the story!

Remember, ssh *IS* *NOT* turned on in the base install.  It has to be 
explicitly enabled.  (See my earlier posts, much surprised.)

That's why I am hoping that the package system can be used as the 
upgrades and security fixes system. 

I suggest ssh be the "poster child".  That is, get the package version 
up to snuff, remove it from the base install, and figure out what needs 
to be done to make more of the game, misc, text, et alia, installs done 
by a single convenient and efficient distribution system.  

Someday, maybe there will only be the kernel, base, and etc.tgz files, 
and maybe those will be "meta-" package upgradable, too....

[At other's suggestion, taking this to the tech-pkg list.]
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William Allen Simpson
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