In message <11054.1055163142@munnari.OZ.AU>, you write: 

->     Date:        Sun, 08 Jun 2003 18:14:07 -0400
->     From:        William Allen Simpson <wsimpson@greendragon.com>
->     Message-ID:  <3EE3B521.6A302CAB@greendragon.com>
-> 
->   | Of these, chgrp is in /rescue, and required for /bin by FHS.
-> 
-> I cannot imagine anything which I would ever need to chgrp or chown
-> during system startup which didn't qualify as a system rescue, so no,
-> they don't belong.

Actually, the goop that makes an MFS'ed /dev (in the case you don't
have one on disk) uses chown, because the MAKEDEV script does.  If
we had a devfs, I would imagine we'd also need something to set the
perms and ownerships of the device nodes...

Other than that, I'm in complete agreement.

--rafal

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Rafal Boni                                                     rafal@attbi.com
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