"Jeremy C. Reed" wrote:
> 
> passwd(1) is tool that can be used by regular users to change their own
> passwords.
> 
> > IMHO, passwd really should be in /sbin.  And chmod, more & less, and
> > other really basic file commands, should be in /bin.
> 
> /sbin is for administration and system tools. passwd(1) is for non-admins
> too. /usr/bin/passwd is normal for other operating systems too. (Anyways,
> it uses pwd_mkdb(8) which is under /usr/sbin/.)
> 
Well, yes, but most everything in /bin and /sbin are for non-admins, too. 

I'm just saying this is something useful in single user mode, and a 
fairly common root activity.


> chmod(1) is in /bin. But I do agree, it would be useful to have a pager in
> /bin too.
> 
(I fixed that, our messages passed in the night, I meant chown.) 

Fixing files is one thing I've had to do!  (Forgetting to tar -p, 
hopefully that will never happen again with the nice new build.sh stuff.)

Thus, I think that all basic file examination and repair programs should 
be in /bin.

What I'm trying to emphasize: the need to think about what needs to be 
readily available to admins, particularly in single user mode.  


> That hit me on a remote box last year too.
> 
Fortunately, this time the box was only 20 minutes away, instead of 20 
hours away.  Sometimes, I think that NetBSD developers have a tendency 
to be armchair developers, concerned only with their own workstation, 
with easy single user mode access. ;-)

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