In message <200210120453.g9C4rTp21164@guild.plethora.net>, Peter Seebach writes : >If I hack ogle to not try for Xv, it works fine, although it is presumably >slower this way. Ah-HAH! The Savage IX chipset always reports Xv hooks, but they only work on the internal LCD, not on an external display. They also only work in 16-bit color. -s