On Wed, 30 May 2001 grant@grunta.com wrote:

> On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 06:05:46PM -0700, David wrote:

> If Darren has an agreement with NetBSD/OpenBSD/other, what does it
> matter? You should be thankful that such a product exists, let alone be
> available at no cost.

Look at the NetBSD project goals (http://www.netbsd.org/Goals/):

  The NetBSD Project provides a freely available and redistributable
  system that professionals, hobbyists, and researchers can use in
  whatever manner they wish.

If ipf was just userland it could be continued to be used via the packages
collection.

ipf is integrated into kernel for packet filtering. If this code is
included for distribution then it goes entirely against the goal above.

According to a message just posted to tech@cvs.openbsd.org (by de Raadt),
ipf will be removed from OpenBSD within the next 20 hours (and alternative
solution will be worked on).

Soon, look at openipf.org.

   Jeremy C. Reed
   http://www.reedmedia.net/