> 
> 
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> personally, i'm afraid i find your use of the word 'dismay' puzzling.. the
> purpose of bundling is to give users a reasonable selection of useful
> software 'right out of the box'.   if you don't want to use one or the
> other (or either), don't.   they'll be right at home with all the other
> bundled packages that rarely get used.. /usr/sbin/zzz and most of the RPC
> daemons, for instance.
> 
> mike stone

Hey!  I use zzz all of the time with my notebook. :-)

-Andrew