[ On Sunday, January 9, 2000 at 04:36:45 (-0800), Todd Whitesel wrote: ]
> Subject: Re: cross compiling -cuurent on 1.4/alpha
>
> > rumours (directly from someone who visited and saw it for real) that
> > even Microsoft developed DOS, early versions of Windows and some
> > applications on Xenix systems for quite a long time (at least up to 1986
> 
> As a MicroSerf Intern in 1991, I can testify that we used _OS/2_ to develop
> code which would eventually run on Windows; in fact everyone in my group
> avoided Windows like the plague, except for final testing. All unit testing
> was done on OS/2 where you could get nice clean SEGV's.

The time I'm talking about should have been before 1989, I think, just
before, or about, the time MS-Windows-2.1 was released.  I don't
remember OS/2 being stable enough to use at that time or we probably
would have chosen it for the project I was working on instead of
MS-Windows-2.x

> Hey, we had two of those in my dorm at school... Those suckers were tough;
> even from the 5-story Aero building, we had to drop them 3 times before the
> CRTs would implode.

I often wondered....

I've got one that fell off the back of a UPS truck (though they would
have me believe otherwise, but there's no other explanation for the 3"
deep dent in the top).  Still works fine!  :-)

I don't think I'll be repeating either experiment ever though -- those
things are practically antiques now and I've only got so many left!

(I hope you were forced to carry them up the stairs by hand too! :-)

> I think you may not realize how far ``make snapshot'' has come in the last
> year. It is not far off from being usable for both snapshots and releases.

That's really cool then!  I look forward to the day in the hopefully
near future when I can do more frequent and more -current builds.  An
ultimate merge of all the release building processes into "make
snapshot" would be ideal of course....

> http://www.toddpw.org/arch-farm.html

It's very nice to see actual photos of so many different real machines
running NetBSD -- perhaps you can get someone to make a link off the
main NetBSD pages to show this off!

> The goal is regular snapshots, of the same sources, for as many ports,
> and of as much of the system as practical.

yummy!

> It irks me whenever I see us make announcements like "CardBus in -current"
> and I know that nobody will be able to download a snapshot with that code
> in it for weeks or perhaps even months. We need the equivalent of
> FreeBSD-stable, and frequent synchronized snapshots are essentially the
> same thing, just on oodles more architectures.

The equivalent of -stable, but without the branch!  :-)

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