Excellent, then I can finally ditch COMPAT_AOUT! ;-)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Bartram" <scottb@iis.com>
To: "Scott Ellis" <scotte@warped.com>
Cc: <current-users@netbsd.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 8:26 AM
Subject: Re: JDK / NetBSD


> An i386/ELF version is on my project list and a coworker has committed
> to work on it. Hopefully, RSN...
>
> Scott Ellis wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the continued work on JDK for NetBSD!  Any chance of an ELF
> > version for i386 (read: one for -current rather than 1.4.x)?
> >
> >     Scott Ellis
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Scott Bartram" <scottb@orionsoft.com>
> > To: "Simon J. Gerraty" <sjg@zen.cdn.telstra.com.au>
> > Cc: <frank@wins.uva.nl>; <sjq@quick.com.au>; <current-users@netbsd.org>
> > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2000 8:44 PM
> > Subject: Re: JDK / NetBSD
> >
> > > There is a release candidate version of 1.1.8 for the i386 platform at
> > > ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/misc/java/i386/1.1.8/
> > > (Sorry I didn't get around to an announcement before the holiday...)
> > >
> > > The recent press releases by Sun regarding the J2SE platform and
> > > licensing/royalties are a little confusing. I'm trying to get
> > > clarification directly from Sun on royalty-free binary distribution.
> > > It's been 3 weeks and counting...
> > >
> > > In the meantime, I've restarted the 1.2.2 port that I had suspended
> > > for the reasons stated by Simon below.
> > >
> > > scott
> > >
> > >
> > > "Simon J. Gerraty" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Frank,
> > > >
> > > > [Hope you don't mind me cc'ing current-users, but this may be of
> > > > general interest]
> > > >
> > > > > I heard that quick.com.au crashed, which explains why I could not
> > > > > reach it. I hope it can be recovered.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, its back - in a nice new case.  Filesystem damage was
restricted
> > > > to NetBSD/current - which was easily fixed by checking it out again
> > > > :-)
> > > >
> > > > > Anyway, I believe you did the NetBSD port of JDK. The last version
> > > > > you did is 1.1.6, I think. 1.2 has been out for a bit now, and
> > > > > more and more people are using it. The obvious question is: do you
> > > > > plan to do 1.2 soon?
> > > >
> > > > Actually I started on 1.2 quite a while ago.  I also have 1.1.8 but
> > > > have not had a chance to unpack it yet.
> > > >
> > > > As for 1.2, it is much cleaner than 1.1.x so I decided to start from
> > > > scratch and make only the changes that were needed for NetBSD.  I've
> > > > done most? of what is needed to attempt a build, but got a bit stuck
on
> > > > the context stuff - 1.1.x just uses setjmp etc, 1.2 seems to use
that
> > > > as well as some svr4 {get,set} context stuff, I was still trying to
> > > > sort out the significance of that when the new license came out for
> > > > 1.2.x
> > > >
> > > > The new license for 1.2.x makes it impossible for us to do a port
and
> > > > make it freely available.  We could make patches available - but
then
> > > > every NetBSD site that wanted to use JDK 1.2.x would need to sign
the
> > > > Sun license - thus excluding themselves from working on kaffe and
the
> > > > like.
> > > >
> > > > As I understand it, we could still do a jdk 1.2.x port but would
need
> > > > to fork out money for the test suite and need to pay royalties for
> > > > each copy given away - not really viable :-) Linux are apparently
> > > > exempt from this restriction.
> > > >
> > > > All in all I didn't see much point persisting with a 1.2 port if it
> > > > was going to be a dead end.  This is a real pain as I had _lots_ of
> > > > things I wanted to work on that needed 1.2.
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps we need to lobby Sun to grant NetBSD the same breaks as
Linux
> > > > since after all we are the ones that support all their old gear :-)
> > > >
> > > > I'm changing jobs next week and will be moving to the SF Bay Area
> > > > later this year - this may give me some more time to work on JDK
ports
> > > > - I'd like to at least do 1.1.8/i386 and sparc.  Though the opposite
> > > > may end up happening :-)
> > > >
> > > > --sjg
> > >
>