[ On Wednesday, March 10, 1999 at 09:36:59 (-0800), Jason Thorpe wrote: ]
> Subject: Re: NetBSD Copyright 
>
> On Wed, 10 Mar 1999 12:11:47 -0500 (EST) 
>  woods@most.weird.com (Greg A. Woods) wrote:
> 
>  >  * 3. The following acknowledgement must appear in printed documentation
>  >  * accompanying a physical distribution of a collective work including
>  >  * this software, and must appear in a file accompanying an electronic
>  >  * distribution of a collective work including this software:
>  >  *
>  >  *	This product includes software developed by Greg A. Woods.
> 
> We've already been around the block with a clause like this before,
> and purged all code from the tree that had a clause like this.

Clearly you've not been actually reading many copyright licenses still
in the tree!  ;-)

The worst offenders are, of course, the TNF and UCB copyright licenses,
but many others remain (and I only looked in tiny parts of the kernel as
sup'ed this morning and I counted requirements for mentioning nine
different individuals, another institution, as well as TNF and UCB!).

However I'm flexible.  I think I'd be willing to change the text of the
required acknowledgement to exactly match the TNF text (since I am
indeed one of the contributors to TNF), IFF indeed this clause is what's
causing the most headache.

> This is NOT like the TNF/UCB clause 3.  There is a very important
> difference.  The TNF/UCB clause 3 requires the attribution to be
> made in _advertising_ materials _only_ if those materials mention
> features provided by the software or mention use of the software.

Indeed it is not -- and it wasn't intended to be.

> IMO, your clause 3 kills the entire thing.

IMO the TNF/UCB clause #3 contradicts clause #4, at least in the
apparent intent.  That's why I changed the wording and was much more
explicit about *my* intent.  Indeed my clause should be even easier for
both TNF and subsquent copyright users to adhere to -- it's something
that's already being done, seemingly without much hassle (I refer to the
listing of acknowledgments in the INSTALL files).

My goal is to make sure that there's human-readable recognition
somewhere in materials accompanying even compressed archives of the
distribution (as well as of course making sure that the entire
un-altered notice is included within the distribution).  My goal is also
to prevent anyone marketing a collective work using my name without
permission in promotional materials (like that's ever going to happen! ;-).

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							Greg A. Woods

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