In message <199610021649.JAA04598@siva>, James Graham writes:
>Poul-Henning Kamp verily doth sez:
># In message <199610010231.TAA26710@siva>, greywolf writes:
># >Poul-Henning Kamp sez:
># ># 
># ># Yes we want this.
># ># 
># ># >What, aside from extendable partitions, would LVM give us over CCD?
># ># 
># ># Architecture instead of hacks.
># >
># >Methinks I detect a hint of elitism in that statement.
># 
># Over here we call it "good taste" :-)
>
>This might explain the linguistic differences between internationally
>varied euphemisms :-).
>
>Glad to see you kept a good humour about it -- I was waiting for the flames,
>although I must warn that I have a fireproof cloak of magic resistance as
>well as a ring of fire resistance on my person at all times... :-)
>
>I don't think that the CCD stuff is a hack, exactly.  True, it wasn't
>gloriously conceived, drafted, and architected over a period of years,
>but it DID provide some very necessary functionality.
>
>I must hold strong in support of Jason, though, in part because I've
>talked to him and he doesn't take stuff like this lightly -- he did
>the CCD in earnest and meant to do it well.  It's basic, to be sure,
>but it _works_.

And I fully agree, but to compare it to a LVM or even suggest it can
do the same thing is preposterous...

Hey >I< run ccd!

>The other reason is that he just seems to make sense:  Why would you want
>your root device striped?  The KISS principle (Keep It Simple, Stupid (in
>case anyone doesn't know :-))) seems to really apply, here:  the less
>metadata, the better.  I could see striping /usr, but not the partition
>from which I boot.  That would just be too hairy.

See my other email on this, I don't want to enforce policy, I want to
provide mechanisms.  You set your policy, I set my policy, the tools
just enforce/implement it.

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