>] 	no, that's not true.  we could ship NetBSD including both ipfilter
>] 	and PF (you can multiple packet filter implementation with a single OS,
>] 	see freebsd - they have been shipping ipfilter and ipfw for a long
>] 	time).
>] 	then you can
>] 	- run packet filter by ipfilter
>] 	- control ALTQ by PF
>This is not what you said earlier.  You had stated that one needed to
>be running PF in order to use ALTQ.  Which is it?

	the latter bullet is consistent with what i said before.  i don't see
	any contradiction.
	what i meant in the previous email is "you don't have to do all of your
	packet filtering task by PF, you can use ipfilter".

itojun