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Re: kern/45626: System time does not advance correctly when noatime is specified for /var



The following reply was made to PR kern/45626; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Donald Allen <donaldcallen%gmail.com@localhost>
To: Manuel Bouyer <bouyer%antioche.eu.org@localhost>
Cc: gnats-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost, kern-bug-people%netbsd.org@localhost, 
gnats-admin%netbsd.org@localhost, 
        netbsd-bugs%netbsd.org@localhost
Subject: Re: kern/45626: System time does not advance correctly when noatime
 is specified for /var
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:06:47 -0500

 On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Manuel Bouyer 
<bouyer%antioche.eu.org@localhost> wro=
 te:
 >
 > On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 01:25:03PM +0000, Donald Allen wrote:
 > > =A0[...]
 > > =A0sysctl -a | grep kern.timecounter
 > >
 > > =A0which I did:
 > >
 > > =A0kern.timecounter.choice =3D TSC(q=3D3000, f=3D67750617510 Hz) clocki=
 nterrupt(q=3D0,
 > > =A0f=3D100 Hz) ichlpcib0(q=3D1000, f=3D3579545 Hz) hpet0(q=3D2000, f=3D=
 14318179 Hz)
 > > =A0ACPI-Fast(q=3D1000, f=3D3579545 Hz) lapic(q=3D-100, f=3D266097187 Hz=
 ) i8254(q=3D100,
 > > =A0f=3D1193182 Hz) dummy(q=3D-1000000, f=3D1000000 Hz)
 > > =A0kern.timecounter.hardware =3D TSC
 > > =A0kern.timecounter.timestepwarnings =3D 0
 >
 > TSC is clearly wrong here, I'm sure you don't have a 67Ghz CPU :)
 
 That's certainly true.
 
 I've got NetBSD installed next to Slackware Linux on this machine,
 running the 3.0.8 kernel from kernel.org. I've had no problem with
 time-keeping in Linux on the machine, so out of curiosity, I brought
 Linux up and had a look at the dmesg:
 
 dca@salome:~$ sudo dmesg | fgrep TSC
 [ =A0 =A00.000000] Fast TSC calibration failed
 [ =A0 =A00.000000] TSC: PIT calibration matches HPET. 1 loops
 [ =A0 =A01.336163] Refined TSC clocksource calibration: 2393.976 MHz.
 
 I could be wrong, but that suggests to me that the Linux kernel
 noticed the TSC oddness and somehow compensated. Perhaps a look at
 what they're doing is in order.
 >
 > >
 > > =A0He also suggested trying
 > >
 > > =A0sysctl -w kern.timecounter.hardware=3Dhpet0
 > > =A0>
 > > =A0> and see if that fixes it.
 > > =A0>
 > >
 > > =A0It does:
 > > [...]
 > > =A0However, after doing this, the system behaved in odd ways. I had tro=
 uble
 > > =A0shutting X down, the system seemed not to be hearing the (USB) keybo=
 ard (I
 > > =A0couldn't log in after doing ctrl-alt-f2). I finally got it shut down=
  and
 > > =A0rebooted, ending this experiment.
 > >
 > > =A0I then decided to try a newer kernel, and installed the kernel from =
 the
 > > =A011/17 snapshot. Upon booting the system this morning (with all the f=
 ile
 > > =A0systems, including /var, mounted async,noatime), I quickly observed =
 the
 > > =A0clock problem.
 >
 > You should try setting
 > kern.timecounter.hardware=3Dhpet0
 > in /etc/sysctl.conf, so that the change is applied at boot.
 > The odd behavior you see may be caused by processes started before
 > the timecounter change.
 
 That makes sense.
 
 I've made the change you suggested to /etc/sysctl.conf and brought the
 system back up. I will use it for my work today and keep an eye on the
 time-keeping. So far it's working fine.
 
 Thanks for your help.
 
 /Don
 
 >
 > You can also try other available timecounters (try ichlpcib0 or i8254
 > for exampe).
 >
 > --
 > Manuel Bouyer <bouyer%antioche.eu.org@localhost>
 > =A0 =A0 NetBSD: 26 ans d'experience feront toujours la difference
 > --
 


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