Subject: Re: XFree86 vs X.org
To: Valeriy E. Ushakov <uwe@NetBSD.org>
From: Jeremy C. Reed <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Date: 12/14/2005 23:26:30
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Valeriy E. Ushakov wrote:
> 1. Cross-building
> Either by our existing reach-over framework, or auto-conf tools.
> src/x11 support for compiling X.org is on the branch, but it needs
> to be updated for the new releases of X.org.
Xorg provides a monolithic (regular non-autoconf build) in addition to
modular. (I can't remember how long the monolithic will be available but I
think for at least another year.)
We should look at was OpenBSD does too (as they use X.org).
> 2. Stability of the X.org code base
> X.org has introduced quite a few regressions over XFree86 code.
We need to make sure these are in the freedesktop bugs database for xorg.
If you prefer, you may point me to them and I will add them to the
(I already have a few little NetBSD issues that have been reported and
some fixed. I am running the latest monolithic X.org from CVS on my
NetBSD/i386 2.0.2 with a 3Dfx Banshee. I also am running several
components of libraries and clients from latest modular x.org via
pkgsrc-wip packages on some NetBSD 3 release candidate. I ran out of time
to continue packaging the modular packages. Any volunteers to help?)
> 3. Native server support
> While X.org has support for newer and more cards, the
> cross-platform support is lacking. We should try to port our
> existing servers that X.org does not have.
I started by making a diff against our source and plain XFree86 (not
X.org) and the diff was very long. If someone has time, we can start
submitting the code upstream (to XFree86 and X.org).
> 4. Strategic direction of X.org
> There is currently discussion within the X.org project about
> deleting the pseudo-color display support code from the Xserver.
> Such changes will automatically break support for older hardware.
> While we understand that in the future older cards may not be
> supported we believe that this change is immature. The earlier we
> start porting NetBSD servers (see #3), the more chances we have to
> have impact on that decision.
It would be good if a NetBSD "X" developer joined or participated in the
xorg freedesktop list(s). (Maybe there is but I have not noticed over
past 18 months.)
Jeremy C. Reed
technical support & remote administration