Re: proplib changes

[Thor Lancelot Simon <tls%netbsd.org@localhost>]

On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 04:27:27AM +0200, Jachym Holecek wrote:
> Hello myself,
> 
> Oh my, this has evolved into such a fuvgybnq bs oyvaqsbyqrq penc[*]
> that I feel guilty for the simple fact that the flamefest is subthread
> to message that has my name on it.
> 
> To clarify -- my intent was to improve on "user friendly" aspect of
> proplib's human interaction, need for which is witnessed by previous
> discussion and even Core's vote (and my own taste, too). I took the
> approach that seemed most obvious at the moment, ie. provide an
> alternative format people would feel more comfortable hand-editing
> in their favorite editor than XML.
> 
> But it's not hard to see that a specialised editor tool can help out on
> this front at least as well (unless done really miserably, and I do feel
> confident that NetBSD can do better than "not suck"). I didn't know such
> a tool has been planned and didn't have any idea of what it could look
> like -- if I did, I'd most likely just wait for it to appear instead
> of getting creative in a different direction.

Did anything actually happen about implementing this plist editor?
I find myself with an application that is almost perfect for proplib,
but I cannot persuade any of the other people involved to accept the
proplib XML format, even though it will be hardly ever edited by
end users.

My point of view about the XML format has changed somewhat but it just
doesn't matter -- I have tried hard to sell it to my coworkers and I
can't.

I do not -- DO NOT -- do not want to start another flame war.  But if
there is not, at this late date, a pledit in NetBSD, and the planned
existence of the same is (a major reason) why we don't have SCN as
an externalization in our userspace proplib, is there any chance I
could resuscitate the SCN code and commit it -- never to be used as
default -- without being turned into a pillar of salt?  It's too
intimate with the proplib internals to maintain sanely as a local
patch.

Thor