Subject: RE: GPT guids
To: None <>
From: De Zeurkous <>
List: tech-userlevel
Date: 12/17/2007 16:37:06

On Mon, December 17, 2007 03:25, der Mouse wrote:
>> So, as I suspected, this is all about saving face?
> All?  I can speak for my own participation only.  With that
> qualification, yes, it is; as I understand it, "saving face" is
> basically "avoiding embarrassment",

One does not avoid embarassment; it is a self-defeating tactic. One faces
and deals with embarassment . Personally, I'd put tabooism (perhaps not
really an emotion, but meh), embarassment, and /perhaps/ shame right there
with hate on the list of 'primitive emotions'.

> and I think behaviour such as you
> have been exhibiting is an embarrassment to NetBSD when it is seen as
> associated with NetBSD - such as when it occurs on NetBSD mailing
> lists.

Yes, I can understand that. NetBSD has a habit of locking up it's soul so
it'll 'sell' better. While it certainly beats selling one's soul (vide
Lunix), I too believe this to be a self-defeating tactic.

>  (Not a large embarrassment; most people are probably competent
> to tell the difference between those speaking with NetBSD voice and
> those speaking for themselves.  But still.)

Given the many personal attacks I received during my brief and
intermittent presence, I believe that to be a bit of an understatement.


De Zeurkous

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