Subject: RE: GPT guids
To: Martin Husemann <>
From: De Zeurkous <>
List: tech-userlevel
Date: 12/16/2007 18:38:46

On Sun, December 16, 2007 18:26, Martin Husemann wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 05:36:15PM -0000, De Zeurkous wrote:
>> We had an excellent flame war about this already on tech-kern about half
>> a
>> year ago -- check the archives. To summarize my position: GPT sucks and
>> we
>> should just implement some extendable, copy-on-write disklabel format
>> instead.
> Thank you for your opinion.

You're welcome :)

> However it is not a very constructive answer
> to a question about details of GPT usage. If you are not going to use
> GPT, please just stay away from this discussion.

During the discussion I referred to, several details of GPT, such as
GUIDs, were, well, discussed. I thought he might find it to be useful. The
latter part of my reply may not have been constructive for relatively
limited minds, but the first part was, hopefully for everyone.

> Since you do not speak for the NetBSD project,

The fact that I've participated in discussions and filed PR's makes me
part of the NetBSD Project for at least a tiny bit -- I will not allow
bureaucratic definitions to mask facts. But rest assured, I do not feel
bound by any official and/or collectivistic opinion (as you've probably
noticed >:P).

> we dare to differ from your
> opinion in this case -

In /many/ cases, as I've noticed.

> please still allow a usefull discussion to happen.

If you're really here to deliver a reprimand as my instinct tells me, I'm
probably a threat to your collectivistic opinion. In any case, I have /no/
intention of inhibiting sane, open-minded discussion. In fact, I'm here to
promote it.


De Zeurkous

Friggin' Machines!

> Martin

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