"Bruce J.A. Nourish" <bjan+tech-userlevel@bjan.net> writes:
> On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 05:19:18PM -0500, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
>> Another possibility -- maybe we are looking at this wrong? There are a
>> variety of conditions we might want to inform programs of ("you've
>> just been awakened after a deep sleep", "the network addresses have
>> all changed", "your resolv.conf is different"), and perhaps we should
>> come up with a more general mechanism for telling programs about such
>> things?
>> 
>> Then, if you alter resolv.conf, run a program announcing "I've altered
>> resolv.conf" to the world and all will be well! :)
>
> This touches on a general problem that exists in all the free Unices:
> user <-> kernel communication. There is simply no general, event based
> infrastructure to communicate changes in the system state.
>
> "The network addresses have all changed," and all the other messages
> you mention are in the same class as "someone just plugged in a PCMCIA
> card/scanner/whatever," or "we just found a wireless LAN that we can
> join."

Exactly.

> Freedesktop.org (among others), Linux vendors, and some competent Linux
> kernel people are starting to code solutions to this problem. One 
> familiar and obvious approach would be to watch the Linux crowd for a 
> year or so, and see what floats to the top in that time.

Remember, in cesspits, the biggest chunks often float to the top.  I
would prefer that we not wait to see what others do but rather that we
might want to engineer something and see if we can influence the
direction such things take instead.



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Perry E. Metzger		perry@piermont.com