Subject: Re: CVS commit: src/share/mk
To: John Hawkinson <>
From: Luke Mewburn <>
List: tech-userlevel
Date: 10/28/2003 11:33:20
On Sat, Oct 18, 2003 at 08:58:42PM +0000, John Hawkinson wrote:
  | > Implement MAKEVERBOSE to control how "verbose" the standard make(1) rules are.
  | > Supported values:
  | >     0	Minimal output ("quiet")
  | >     1	Describe what is occurring
  | >     2	Describe what is occurring and echo the actual command ("verbose")
  | > 	This is the default, and is equivalent to the previous behaviour.
  | I'm pretty disappointed you didn't see fit to address the concerns
  | I raised about the sense of this being backwards. Any particular
  | you reason you did not reply before your implementation? I would
  | have appreciated knowing how you were going to implement this before
  | you did it.

FWIW: the general feedback I have received about this work has been

You were asking for what I consider to be a minor semantic difference
in how this is controlled (MAKEVERBOSE versus your MAKEBRIEF), and
one that I didn't feel had enough justification to change from I'd
already done, especially since no-one else expressed any similar
sentiments to yours.

In any case, the method the infrastructure is controlled is based on
one set of checks of MAKEVERBOSE in <>; if it turns out in
our experience using the mechanism shows us that your MAKEBRIEF
semantics are better/make more sense, it's trivial to change.

Having the MAKEVERBOSE stuff available to more than just the ""
infrastructure is useful as well; this came up in my discussions with
a few people about this stuff before it was committed.