Subject: re: PROPOSAL: /etc/rc, /etc/init.d/*, ...
To: Darren Reed <firstname.lastname@example.org>
From: matthew green <email@example.com>
Date: 12/01/1999 23:23:33
Yes. The actions should be supported by all scripts. They may do
nothing or they may do something. At least that way when you want
to do something like "for i in /etc/init.d/*; do $i querylog; done"
you don't get a bunch of crap from scripts which don't support that
particular switch. I think things like the cachefs.daemon script
on Solaris7 are bad examples (that particular script has been written
in such a way that it does start but not stop). The S99dtlogin is
another bad example because it supports a bunch of switches which
are otherwise unused elsewhere (reset/update_printers/get_server_pid).
There should be some semblance of orthogonal design across all the
this is ludicrous! these scripts are modular *individual* beings.
if you attempt to force a defined set of `operations' on them, you
will cripple them. it does not allow for expansion. personally,
if i call a script with an unsupported argument, i *want* it to fail
Well, Solaris has /etc/rc[012356S].d so nerh. Each of the run levels
is also different in terms of what is started, etc. You don't want to
go the extra step and create a "RUNLEVEL" tag in your scripts, do you ?
i'd hand you a shovel, but you seem to have found an entire squadron
of excavation machines ....
To me it sounds like you're saying "faststart" should be our default startup
method, here, which I think is wrong.
you meantion on icb this is because 'we' expect this argument to be
`start' and changing that expectation is bad... i find that i have
to agree with this point. damn. luke, can we do this elsewise for
Well, I'd go for sitting on less fences, if that makes sense :) Personally,
I like the idea of supporting /etc/rc as well as the init directory thing,
but do we need to have multiple init directory based things ? I mean, it's
not like we're trying to turn NetBSD into Linux, is it ?
the point is that, by default, NetBSD will have /etc/rc as it does
today, additionally have all the funky scripts for after-boot-time
usage. beyond this, people will have the *choice* to use any
method of startup they want -- but they'll have to make that
choice themselves, away from the default.
while i'll never use, the sysv option, i can not see any harm in
supporting its existence as non-default.