Subject: Re: major hier(7) overhauls?
To: NetBSD Userlevel Technical Discussion List <firstname.lastname@example.org>
From: Scott Reynolds <scott.reynolds@Plexus.COM>
Date: 01/26/1999 01:48:23
Greg Woods wrote:
> [ On Sun, January 24, 1999 at 14:00:08 (-0600), Scott Reynolds wrote: ]
>> Subject: Re: major hier(7) overhauls?
>> I want to point out for the record (realizing that this is an old thread)
>> that there is still a lot of hardware that NetBSD runs on that doesn't have
>> the disk capacity to do this. Forcing people to go out and scrounge disk
>> space is not reasonable.
> Show me. ;-)
Many Macs came with 40MB or 80MB disks. This is the key point: I can (and
do) mount /usr via NFS from my server on one of the Macs sitting right next
to me. If you were to merge e.g. /usr/bin and /bin, I couldn't do that any
more. Anyway, the following bit appears to be key:
> I have lots more, lots older, hardware than most folks. I've even got a
> SPARCstation-1 running happily with a 105MB drive (sans compiler and a
> few things like documentation, etc.), and it's all on one filesystem.
What does `all in one file system' have to do with hier(7)? It really,
really sounds like your beef is with sysinst, not the fact that hier(7)
defines the /usr file system. If that is in fact the case, I have no
problem with you wanting to have / and /usr on the same file system,
provided that you don't force it on everyone.
> If there was a 16-bit version of NetBSD I could probably fit it all
> comfortably on either my 67MB or 160MB SMD drive for my PDP-11, and
> since the 67MB drive is removable I'd probably use that for data.
To continue the first thought above: There are a lot of 680x0-based Macs
running NetBSD on 80M or smaller drives. If you judge by the number of
subscriptions to the mailing lists, the only port that has a bigger interest
is NetBSD/i386 (and this in spite of obvious shortcomings!). Comparing
these folks to those that might hypothetically want to load it on a PDP-11
If you want to argue for making sysinst a little more flexible, please do
so. Just don't mess with hier(7). Defining /usr doesn't imply a separate
file system any more than defining /root or /stand does.