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firefox behaviour, www.haaretz.co.il, js firefox36 dies, ghost process marked?
Sometime on Fri. Dec. 28, and over in and around the weekend
through Dec. 31, 2012 when I brought peano up and checked
mail/news and ongoingly, I ran into a problem with firefox36
from pkgsrc, (firefox non-3 series for some reason stopped
working in Feb. 2012), this works, for NetBSD-6.0_(now STABLE),
i386, on the Haaretz newspaper site (and some others,
documented), http://www.haaretz.co.il/. The spec needed is
used. Firefox36 hangs and dies with about a 80% load of the
page, needs a wm kill (pkgsrc/fvwm but twm would work), and then
on restart there is an error box, "There seems to be a firefox
process already running.", with all the stuff about independent
instances of any process/browser running under Un*x, X11 not
being separate as per desktop windows on fvwm etc. when
firefox36 is generally run, and its thus tricky build and
problematic interaction with X11 (tried by hand throughout
Dec. 2011-Jan 2012.). Emacs-24.2.91 also died unexpectedly
once, and I first tried src, xsrc rebuilds from
cvs. 6.0.1-RELEASE came out, and that did not work and had
problems, so I switched back to cvs -r netbsd-6
(NetBSD-6.0_STABLE). Took time.
Upon the full rebuilds, then firefox36 would build, and work
until I hit http://www.haaretz.co.il/, and then it died same
problem. no zombies in ps -augx for any of these, ??.
New cvs -r netbsd, rebuild, atf-run | atf-report with hard copy
to file, no unexpected errors.
Did a reboot, and running a fresh X, ran x11perf with no problems.
Rebuilt, lintpkgsrc -i, back to xulrunner192, nspr deinstall
clean. Built with CFLAGS += -g3 and anew, firefox36 works on
http://www.haaretz.co.il/ w/o js until an article is selected
for a new window and then the same hang/kill/no restart problem.
ktrace.out is huge and seems to cycle in lines as it is run
through kdump. Other rebuilds of firefox36 working for a time
w/o js enabled, including a referred site of Shlomi Fish from
the www.hamakor.org.il site, an org.il site, which died in the same
way with firefox36 w/o js enabled.
Tried other browsers, lynx, links -g, dillo, emacs w3.
All but w3 do not have java(script), all display some sort of
text, with links -g giving he, utf-8 chars and newspaper
pictures L2R not R2L , same for dillo, and w3 working to an
extent if I went in and disabled w3-java, and rebuilt emacs with
or without image files (its an editor, but to test this
I18n, bidi worked with some difficulty in rendering their page,
images a problem, and with images or with js, on 53% parse of
the page it would hang and need to C-g on the buffer or w3 in
emacs. Have notes from *Messages*, and without images/java last
night, DOM parse trees from the www page. Other sites such as
www.acri.org.il and cs.haifa.ac.il, cs.technion.ac.il,
www.huji.ac.il worked with bidi and emacs w3
program crashes due thus to js.
Someone on the MCTO on Sat. aft. who knew about my family
through marriage now divorced in the Jewish comm. here from
years ago said something about how they running Windows and
their browsers (firefox or some other) could not access Israeli
co.il sites just as I was having trouble with www.haaretz.co.il,
Was odd, never seen the woman before. Reported common contexts
not generally known for some 14 years and earlier. Just added
the remark in getting off the bus, picking me out of a crowd,
about 50ish, female 3/4 mile - 1 mi. up the road from where I
need to get off the bus. Reports are rumored but MS with IE or
something and such has no problem under some set of politically
motivated community relations with computers, www sites, and
choice of tools. ?!, given US v Microsoft, etc., not a surprise
in a way, but helping this, and however this can be passed on to
mozilla developers network or X11 fixes or etc. helps others
albeit indirectly. How true about her software/computer I don't
know, but, a useful environmental improvement in such things in
the end or sooner --- no control over what tools she uses.
other www sites, noted where occurred, with firefox36 and
others, is a problem with the Java VM for js on firefox36 and
emacs w3 (defaults to hotjava, not on my systems, kaffe is
installed, also fails), and X11, seteuid etc. and such processes
--- the firefox still running error message when there is none,
and no ps -augx for the firefox/xulrunner process, and refusal
to restart anew.
Looked into ECMAscript spec, js articles, json, etc. for
parallel lgs with open source tools in process or such and a
better locally secure execution possibility, and extending
existing browsers cited above to bidi, utf8, he il especially
but generally. Blocked for the moment due to various conditions
including housing, a debt repayment and other issues locally.
Don't know how to get at what in firefox36 in its code base is
messing up X11 and how its (spidermonkey) js, js-jit
etc. subsystems affect this. Someone might want to have a look.
Don't need firefox(36 or other) per se if some other frontend as
open source browser does the jobs I need. Libs etc. have become
design dependent on it or its correspondence to IE in their
John R. Towler
Mon Jan 7, 2013
bash-4.2$ Xorg -version
X.Org X Server 1.10.3
Release Date: 2011-07-08
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: NetBSD/i386 -
Current Operating System: NetBSD peano.jtcl.org 6.0_STABLE NetBSD 6.0_STABLE
(Peano7c -r netbsd-6 1/2/2012) #0: Wed Jan 2 19:54:14 CST 2013
Build Date: 01 August 2011 01:01:00AM
Current version of pixman: 0.23.2
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
bash-4.2$ uname -a
NetBSD peano.jtcl.org 6.0_STABLE NetBSD 6.0_STABLE (Peano7c -r netbsd-6
1/2/2012) #0: Wed Jan 2 19:54:14 CST 2013
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