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Seth Kurtzberg(seth@cql.com)@2002.08.29 19:16:35 +0000:
> Everyone is writing as if Perry can't be correct because the nature and=
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> complexity of this problem is unknown.  That is simply untrue.  And the=
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we shouldn't have an argument here. that's why i f'uped my mail to
simply stop the part of the discussion that leads us nowhere.

> assertion that he is wrong because he has studied the subject extensively=
 is,=20

didn't mean it this way, i don't want to prove anything right or wrong
here. the question applying to a large number of really good folks in
the crypto community would rather be: do they stand on their own
shoestrings, just because of following a rigid pattern of formalisms in
their thinking? don't get me wrong, didn't want to give that a "quality"
of some sort. thought it'd be obvious. i'd be delighted to discuss these
matters off-list, as they seem OT for technical mailing lists.

> well, ...difficult to understand.  The fact is, Perry's assertions are=20
> absolutely of the correct order of magnitude.  While the distant future i=
s=20

thought about it, and you're right. whereas we both tended to the
extreme. "trillions of $$$ vs. timeframe of months" can't really produce
an objective result, neither does it lead to productive discussion.

> perhaps not possible to predict, the near future certainly is, at least f=
or=20
> technology that must be manufactured in quantity.  And there will be ampl=
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> warning when a threat to 1024 bit keys becomes practical.

yup, at least when the threat originates from the whitehats. everything
else, we cannot directly foresee.

regards,
/k

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