Subject: Re: ssh - are you nuts?!?
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List: tech-security
Date: 12/20/2000 05:08:46
On 18 Dec, Mipam wrote:
>> It allows you to have a secure connection between two endpoints on the
>> internet that might not otherwise be able to connect.  I use it to
>> grab my pop mail from a heavily firewalled server when I'm on the
>> road.  Just crank up my ssh session to the main machine (with a tunnel
>> from port 119 on the local machine to port 119 on, then
>> tell my pop client to go to localhost instead of  ssh can
>> be configured to disallow connections to that port from outside of my
>> machine, so I have a high degree of confidence that no one else is
>> using that connection if I'm the only one on the machine.
> This is pop over ssh and so tcp over tcp.
> I also run it though (fetchmail over ssh) and experienced some problems.
> But for lack of ipsec compatibility on the pop server site this is the
> only way to go. However .... sometimes i really doubt the use of it.
> By default i negociate via apop with the popserver where the password
> is md5'd. So they'll be able to sniff my username and contents of the mail
> fine. When i'd go by pop over ssh ppl wouldnt be able to simply sniff and
> see the content which is very nice of course.
> However, when mail is send, it's done over smtp which is plain text as well
> and so ppl'll see the mail when arriving on the mailserver itself anyway.
> Only thing to remedy that is gpg or smtp over ssh.
> So basically using apop is good enough for me considering the above.
> However, i still use pop over ssh. I guess only reason is that i have more
> confidence that ssh provides better encryption (which is indeed true)
> and authentication then apop, so ppl wont be able to grap my password that
> easily.
You state that SSH offers "better encryption" and authentication. What
assurances do you have of that? Can you really say that is the case?