At Fri, 22 Aug 2025 06:52:53 -0400, Greg Troxel <gdt%lexort.com@localhost> wrote: Subject: Re: CVS commit: pkgsrc/sysutils > > I also don't understand why 4.15 isn't just being deleted right now. > It's been crufty for a very long time, and anybody who hasn't migrated > to 4.18 is "woefully behind". The universal symbol for "you really > really should no longer using this" is removing it. Well it all depends on what one might consider to be "cruft"! I've never actually tested 4.15, but for me 4.13 is still the only stable version of Xen I can run on some hardware. 4.18 is unusable on this hardware, as is 4.20, and thus by association 4.15 is also suspect.... I should test 4.15 I suppose -- but I have a bunch of patches I would need to make to the pkgsrc module workable in order to test it properly, and so that's been on the back burner, especially for summer. Such a test might narrow down the range of changes where the problems first crop up for my hardware. (I have been running 4.18 already for quite some time on hardware where it is stable.) I've got a stack of patches for Xen itself (as of 4.20) that fix a lot of the porting nightmares for BSDs and which might help clean up the pgkrsc modules quite a lot -- stuff that probably should have been fixed a decade ago, but I haven't been able to work on upstreaming them yet. Overall my fixes should also make it easier to have multiple versions of Xen installed at the same time, both for testing and for safer upgrade paths. Anyway I don't mean to say pkgsrc should keep 4.15 (or 4.13!) around -- I can keep those modules around for my own needs. I just wanted to point out that there are ongoing problems with more recent Xen versions, and for my own purposes a crufty old version that doesn't have those problems is worth keeping in my own systems for now. -- Greg A. Woods <gwoods%acm.org@localhost> Kelowna, BC +1 250 762-7675 RoboHack <woods%robohack.ca@localhost> Planix, Inc. <woods%planix.com@localhost> Avoncote Farms <woods%avoncote.ca@localhost>
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