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Re: Packages with non-distributable distfiles
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 01:55:56PM +0200, John Marino wrote:
> Infrastructure is needed, rules are needed and must be enforced.
> This sub-project, pkgsrc, has the resources to do that, but isn't.
Formal rules are needed only when there's a social problem that cannot
be solved by community consensus.
Again: what *problem* are you trying to solve?
> >>I'm sorry, I'm going to continue to believe that packages that
> >>require distfiles that are illegal to obtain have no place in a
> >>package system that serves open source operating systems.
> >You may believe it, but your beliefs should not impede others.
> >We're not GNU, and this world still has IP laws. Some software has to be
> >bought (licensed) in order to be used, and there's significant number of
> >users who don't see anything wrong with it.
> I said nothing about IP laws. I said "illegal to obtain". That
> has been stated as fact several times. If you have one of these
> distfiles, you can't legally give it to me. That's going nothing
> to do with GNU or IP.
I'm inclined to agree with asau@. The criterion you're applying seems
to be based on whether the software is Free.
> I think you forgot how the whole things started. I marked these
> NOT-FOR-DRAGONFLY. That's it, I was finished. It was Joerg that
> put forth a policy proposal (a good one). I support the proposal,
> but since I've actually not seen any proposal ever get implemented,
> I'm skeptical this one will either. So I spent 3 minutes per
> package that violates *our* policy without affecting anyone else
> and I moved on to fixing those important breakages. So I'm pleased
> to inform you that the only time I continue to waste on the subject
> is responding to this thread.
The issue is that by marking the packages that way, rather than with a
semantically-meaningful tag (which would need to be implemented)
you're adding to the entropy of the system. In a few years when this
little argument is long forgotten, it will be (at best) a hassle to
track down why all these packages are marked NOT-FOR-DRAGONFLY.
A semantically-meaningful tag would also allow these packages to stop
polluting the bulk build results on *all* platforms, not just yours,
without making them unavailable.
David A. Holland
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