Re: deprecate --fetch-cmd option of bootstrap script

[Alistair Crooks <agc%pkgsrc.org@localhost>]

On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 08:08:21PM +0200, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 08:04:41PM +0200, Alistair Crooks wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 08:00:14PM +0200, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote:
> > > On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 07:26:37PM +0200, Alistair Crooks wrote:
> > > > the idea of the bootstrap script is for users to be able to run this
> > > > once, and have everything set up for them so that they can just start
> > > > using pkgsrc. the original bootstrap script was done that way for a
> > > > reason.
> > > > 
> > > > so joerg's suggestion might have been well meant, but falls short of
> > > > what is expected.
> > > 
> > > I disagree. The default should just work -- if there are still specific
> > > reasons for chosing something else, ok. The only major reason I have
> > > heard of for not wanting tnftp are:
> > > (1) It requires ncurses on many systems, so doesn't build out of the
> > > box.
> > > 
> > > (2) It doesn't support HTTPS.
> > > 
> > > For those platforms, fetch would be a saner default. The second part of
> > > course only applies if OpenSSL can be found natively.
> > 
> > Yeah, I think you're missing something - the default does just work. 
> 
> No, it doesn't always work. In fact, this is the issue most likely to be
> hit on Linux.

if the bootstrap script (what we're talking about here) doesn't always
work, then we have a problem.  i don't think we have a problem, i
think you're talking about something else - and on linux, i use pkgsrc
on rhel 5 every day - works fine for me.  rhel 4 and rhel 6 too.
 
> > But what we're talking about here is the ability to run the bootstrap
> > script and have the results just work, whether or not the user has an
> > aversion to tnftp or not.  We know from bug reports that there are
> > users in that class.  So we have to cater for them, rather than just
> > ignoring them.
> 
> So what next? An option to specify the location of packages? An option
> to change the work area encoded into mk.conf? I think you are confusing
> the bug reports...

just the ability to specify things in the bootstrap script so that things
jfw as expected.

regards,
alistair