Subject: Re: packaging Thunderbird 184.108.40.206
To: Greg Troxel <email@example.com>
From: Geert Hendrickx <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Date: 05/11/2007 15:42:37
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 09:27:08AM -0400, Greg Troxel wrote:
> What do you think is best?
> 1) keep Thunderbird 1.5.0.x in mail/thunderbird and add Thunderbird 2.x as
> mail/thunderbird2 (like I did with Firefox 1.5.x vs 2.x)
> 2) update the existing mail/thunderbird package to 2.x (like I did with
> Seamonkey 1.0.x vs 1.1.x, which was a similar upgrade)
> There are three considerations:
> 1) please make sure that a user with an installed thunderbird who
> updates pkgsrc and does either pkg_chk -u or pkg_rolling-replace will
> have something reasonable happen. Reasonable choices are staying on
> 1.5 or going to 2. Unreasonable behaviors are failing to update
> because the old pkg name is no longer a pkg name.
> The right fix is to have a rename database, but we don't. This
> argues for having thunderbird just updated to 2, so that people don't
> have 2 and then have to update to mail/thunderbird (which will be 2),
> which won't go smoothly.
> 2) Can we say, and really mean it, that everyone should simply switch to
> thunderbird 2 right now? Is that the official advice from
> thunderbird people? If not, that argues for calling it thunderbird2.
They have, AFAIK, not yet announced an EOL date for Thunderbird 1.5, but
the one for Firefox 1.5 was only a few months after the 2.0 release. Users
were quite strongly advised to upgrade. I kept the firefox 1.5 package
around at that time because there were several issues with 2.0 on non-i386
platforms (which have been resolved now).
> 3) If switching to thunderbird2 is the standard approach, would people
> need to have thunderbird 1.5? If so, then the current package should
> be put into thunderbird1 so that people can run it if need be.
> So all in all I think it's likely that your option 2, with possibly
> reimporting thunderbird 1.5 as thunderbird1, is the way to go.
The _easiest_ solution (for me as a maintainer, and for users using
pkg_rolling_replace or other scripts) is to simply upgrade mail/thunderbird
to Thunderbird 2, but we need to make sure it works on other hardware than
my own i386 box first. So, would it make sense to:
3) Import mail/thunderbird2 as an "experimental" Thunderbird 2.0 package
(for testing), and once it works well, remove it again and upgrade the
existing mail/thunderbird package to 2.0.0.x, preferably before 2007Q2.
(mail/thunderbird2 could also be wip/thunderbird2 for less confusion?)