Subject: Re: updates for bbkeys and blackbox
To: None <>
From: Jan Schaumann <>
List: tech-pkg
Date: 11/05/2005 11:09:40
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"Jeremy C. Reed" <> wrote:
> Here is an update for bbkeys and blackbox.

Ever since the release of blackbox 0.70.0, people have asked why I
haven't updated the wm/blackbox package.  I admit, I haven't looked into
these issues in a while, but let me just repeat what I said earlier:

I haven't updated blackbox to version 0.70.0, because there are many
other applications that work with blackbox, that do not function with
the new.  In particular, I'm hesitant to update blackbox until at the
very least bbpager, bbkeys and bbmail are made to work with the new
version.  If this version of bbkeys does in fact work with 0.70.x, then
that's a good start.
Something I've been pondering for a while is whether or not to _add_
another package for blackbox 0.70.x that installs into a separate
location, or that at the least conflicts with the regular blackbox
package.  I'm afraid that might be necessary.  However, this would also
require new versions of bbkeys, bbpager and all the other bbtools that
have been updated to work with 0.70.x to be created as new packages,
which is really messy.

The last time I tried the new blackbox and the different bbtools, I was
not satisfied at all with the usability.   With the new version I had to
start bbpager and bbkeys _after_ starting blackbox (ie changing my
~/.xsession), a conversion of the bbkeys file is necessary and the
default installation is missing my favorite styles.
(Also see my previous message:

Somebody else emailed me just the other day regarding blackbox, and I
think he said he wanted to import blackbox 0.70.x into pkgsrc-wip.

As I said, I do not want to replace the current (working) version of
blackbox with the new one until I'm certain that the new version will
work equally well (with the other bb tools).


   That's a tricky one. You have to use calculus and imaginary numbers ...
   like eleventeen, thirty-twelve, and all those ...
                  -- Hobbes

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