Subject: Re: Anyone using zope25-CMFPlone? Update needed
To: Jeremy C. Reed <>
From: Laurent DAVERIO <>
List: tech-pkg
Date: 10/12/2004 10:19:40
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Hi Jeremy,

> If you use zope25-CMFPlone and have time to do an update, please assist.

from my experience as a Zope/Plone user on several platforms (FreeBSD, Linux, 
Solaris, OS X, and even Windows), I would say that I prefer to keep Zope/Plone 
out of the ports/packaging system for the following reasons :

- Zope and Plone are very easy to install : basically, just unpack a tgz file. 
True, Zope 2.7 needs a ./configure, make, make install routine, but Zope is 
written mostly in Python, the C parts are small and I've never seen gcc fail on 

- Basically, the hardest part to get Zope running is to get Python (2.3.4 for 
Zope 2.7.2+) and its modules (PIL, odbc, PsycoPg, DCOracle2, ...) running and, 
for this, pkgsrc/FreeBSD ports/DarwinPorts/... is invaluable.

- You may want to have several version of Zope and/or Plone coexist on the same 
machine, and I'm not sure whether pkgsrc allows to do it more easily than the 
manual way.

- Also, you *don't* want pkgsrc to decide when to switch Zope/Plone versions for 
you. Plone has a very complex machinery, and is *VERY* sensitive as to which 
version of Zope (and Python) you install it on. (e.g. : Plone 2.0.4 + Zope 2.7.2 
: mostly OK, except heavy sessioning - Plone 2.0.4 + Zope 2.7.3b1 : no go). 
Similarly, you might want to test ZopeX3 (the preview of Zope 3) alongside Zope 

Just my two cents, although I realize it might be slightly offtopic...



     Laurent DAVERIO
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