Subject: Re: SETGIDGAME and id games
To: Jan Schaumann <>
From: Todd Vierling <>
List: tech-pkg
Date: 05/12/2004 13:13:51
On Tue, 11 May 2004, Jan Schaumann wrote:

: Another issue that snj@ brought up:  many of these games install
: scorefiles into /var/games.  That's obviously outside of ${PREFIX} and
: we may want to consider providing a default location.
: ${PREFIX}/share/games, maybe?  Other ideas?

No, they belong in /var.  That's why SUPPORT_FILES and OWN_DIRS exist.

I already fixed something along these lines two weeks ago; see
pkgsrc/games/xbill.  The introduction of:

PKG_GROUPS=             games
MAKE_DIRS_PERMS+=       /var/games ${BINOWN} games 0775
SUPPORT_FILES_PERMS+=   ${PREFIX}/share/examples/xbill.scores /var/games/xbill.scores ${BINOWN} games 0664

makes it work flawlessly on any system, whether or not it has a group
"games".  The MAKE_DIRS_PERMS and SUPPORT_FILES_PERMS changes take place in
the package-internal INSTALL and DEINSTALL scripts, thus allowing a binary
package to manipulate files in /var.

Please don't put any additional changing data in ${PREFIX}.  The fact that
pkgsrc does that now for some things by default (like postgresql) is very,
very bad.  It should be possible to mount ${PREFIX} read-only and still have
everything work fine.

Runtime-changing data belongs in /var, period.

-- Todd Vierling <> <>