Subject: Re: xmms patch for raw cds
To: Perry E. Metzger <>
From: Luke Mewburn <>
List: tech-pkg
Date: 02/11/2003 17:28:47
On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 01:24:22AM -0500, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
  | "James K. Lowden" <> writes:
  | > > > Yeah. For that reason, I think it would better to use /dev/cdrom on
  | > > > all platforms, and on NetBSD, to let the user make /dev/cdrom a
  | > > > symlink to the desired device.
  | > > 
  | > > I think we should make things work well by default. As it stands right
  | > > now, most users will be happy with cd0 being used to play things, and
  | > > I think in general we should do what Simon proposes. Rule of least
  | > > surprise. The user is NOT expecting to need to create a /dev/cdrom and
  | > > /dev/cdrom goes very much against the NetBSD grain I think.
  | > 
  | > The problem as I see it is, there's no way to offer any hint to pkgsrc (or
  | > applications generally) about what device to use.  There should be some
  | > notion of a default cdrom, default printer, default floppy, default modem.
  | There is one. /dev/cd0X is almost ALWAYS the only CD device on the
  | machine. Similarly, there is almost ALWAYS just /dev/fd0X, etc.
  | If the user does something else, they can configure it. Give them a
  | MESSAGE to that effect -- that's what MESSAGE is for.

Yup it does, and that's what the MESSAGE will still (probably) contain
after Simon's patch.  Simon's patch makes things "better" by default
for the majority of NetBSD installations of xmms...