Subject: Re: BUILD_DEPENDS on autoconf
To: Alistair Crooks <>
From: Greg A. Woods <>
List: tech-pkg
Date: 05/31/2002 13:04:31
[ On Friday, May 31, 2002 at 13:37:06 (+0200), Alistair Crooks wrote: ]
> Subject: Re: BUILD_DEPENDS on autoconf

Interesting numbers, but rather pointless and extremely misleading out
of context.

Perhaps you should post comparisons to building a kernel, and building
an entire NetBSD release, and xsrc, and perhaps just the NetBSD toolchain.

Building perl on an ss2 is no slower, and requires no more or less other
resources, in comparison to building anything else on an ss2.  If you
truly want to do builds of any modern (i.e. bloated) software on your
ss2 then you're certainly already well accustomed to the time and effort
it will take to do so.

Complaining about the time and resources required to build something
like perl on an ss2 is silly.  It takes what it takes and if that's what
you've _chosen_ to do then you'll do it no matter.  There is an easier
altnerative for the lazy or those without the necessary resources, and
that's to obtain the pre-built binary packages.  You do not have to do
the build from source if you are not able to do it.  If you want to do
the build from source anyway then you _MUST_ be prepared to set aside
the time and resources it will take.

If you just simply don't like slow builds then don't use an ss2.  There
are machines an order of magnitude or more faster and more capable that
you could obtain for the same price as an ss2.  I don't know about the
situation where ever you are in the world, but around here I can find
machines easily two or more times as fast as an ss2, for FREE --
i.e. even cheaper than an ss2.

> You have ignored people who have older or slower architectures.
> You have ignored people who have some of the smaller architectures,
> which are tight on disk space.


Most of those of us who are using old hardware are doing so because we
want to, not because we are forced to.

The tiny tiny fraction of people who are actually forced to use older
hardware are more than welcome to draw upon the resources of folks like
me who use it by choice.  We build binary packages that they can safely
use.  They are not left out in the cold even if they really do not have
the disk space needed to build the likes of perl.

								Greg A. Woods

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