Subject: Re: ups-nut rc.d scripts
To: Johnny Lam <>
From: Luke Mewburn <>
List: tech-pkg
Date: 11/21/2001 15:28:30
On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 07:55:32PM -0800, Johnny Lam wrote:
> The ups-nut design has changed, and I think the recommended way to start
> and stop the drivers now is through "upsdrvctl start|stop".  If we use
> upsdrvctl, then we don't need to figure out the pidfile name as it's
> taken care of by the program.

That makes sense. I'll update my version and resubmit.

> taken care of by the program.  Using the argument as to why nmbd and smbd
> in net/samba should be controlled by the same script, I argue that the the
> UPS driver programs and upsd should be controlled by the same script: it
> doesn't make sense to start one without the other.

As the author of the rc.d stuff, I disagree (but that doesn't mean that
you're not entitled to your opinion!)

a) My local rc.d/samba script starts both smbd and nmbd at once,
   because I see them as `tightly coupled'; you really don't run one
   without the other, nor manipulate one without the other).

   At the time, that seemed like a good idea (similar to
   /etc/rc.d/nfslocking), but I am leaning now to the idea of
   providing separate nmbd and smbd scripts that do the work, and a
   `master' samba script which has 'KEYWORDS: nostart' for
   administrator convenience.

b) In my testing of updating the ups-nut package, using the rc.d
   script which starts 3 services caused me no end of grief,
   especially when upsd wouldn't start because it couldn't bind to
   the socket (waiting for CLOSE_WAIT?). Having the ability to
   manually bounce upsd (for example) is useful.

In summary, ups-nut should install:
	/usr/pkg/etc/rc.d/upsdrvctl	manage ups driver
	/usr/pkg/etc/rc.d/upsd		manage upsd
	/usr/pkg/etc/rc.d/upsmon	manage upsmon
	/usr/pkg/etc/rc.d/upslog	manage upslog
	/usr/pkg/etc/rc.d/ups		front-end for the above for
					sysadmin convenience - not run
					by /etc/rc at startup

On another note, I don't believe that package installs should put stuff
in /etc/rc.d. I strongly prefer that package rc.d scripts install into
/usr/pkg/etc/rc.d, and then reminding the admin to manually install the
rc.d scripts into /etc/rc.d.

Luke Mewburn  <>
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