Subject: Re: Comments on pkgs (Taylor UUCP...)
To: NetBSD Packages Technical Discussion List <tech-pkg@NetBSD.ORG>
From: Todd Gruhn <>
List: tech-pkg
Date: 10/28/2001 05:41:06
I recall really building about 4 files:
L-devices, L.sys (major hacking sessions, and reading
the Oreilly book),, sys.uucp (straight forward). The rest I stole from Ian Taylor's uucp
dist file -- I think they were under /src/conf, or
something of that sort. 

But yes Greg, I have been careful to move my /etc/uucp/*
files and /etc/remote from 1 NetBSD revision to the
BTW: Anyone interested in my fixed  ver of tips
-----Original Message-----
From: (Greg A. Woods)
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 15:58:40 -0400 (EDT)
To: "Todd Gruhn" <>
Subject: Re: Comments on pkgs (Taylor UUCP...)

> [ On Saturday, October 27, 2001 at 21:17:47 (+0800), Todd Gruhn wrote: ]
> > Subject: Re: Comments on pkgs (Taylor UUCP...)
> >
> >   If tip is such a bad tool, why is NetBSD still screwing
> > with it?
> because it's there?  :-)
> I don't know that it's been mucked with much except to fix the obvious
> bugs and potential security problems....
> > NetBSD's /etc/remote file is totally screwed.
> Yup.
> > I have since added fixes and examples to make it useable. Tips also
> > has the rec= feature that allows me to log stuff and see what happens.
> > 
> > UUCP allows me to connect to hardwire and use the
> > AT commands, just as tip does. I can't recall
> > UUCP logging stuff.
> Why do you need special logging?  Just use 'script'!  :-)
> Yes, I know that sometimes you don't know you want to log something
> until after you're connected.  It would be quite trivial to add a new
> tilde command to 'cu' to toggle session logging....
> > The Taylor UUCP that comes with
> > NetBSD is very lacking in config files, etc.
> Yes, that's true -- I just copied the HDB-UUCP ones from my SunOS-4
> system and have been carting them around with me ever since....
> (I don't really like Taylor's own "unified" config file, but that's
> probably just because I have far more experience with traditional and
> HDB configurations....)
> They've got stupid AT&T copyrights and proprietary nonsense notices, but
> there's nothing really unique about them and certainly nothing much you
> can do to write them in any different way, so it probably wouldn't hurt
> to copy their essence (modernising them on the way through) into a
> public distribution.
> -- 
> 							Greg A. Woods
> +1 416 218-0098      VE3TCP      <>     <>
> Planix, Inc. <>;   Secrets of the Weird <>


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