Subject: Re: down?
To: John Hawkinson <jhawk@MIT.EDU>
From: Jon Buller <>
List: tech-pkg
Date: 05/17/2001 21:30:07
John Hawkinson <jhawk@MIT.EDU> wrote:
> Jon Buller <> wrote on Thu, 17 May 2001
> at 21:03:19 -0700 in <>:
> > I saw the stuff about a possible routing problem earlier, is this just more
> > of the same, or something more dire?
> The former:
> 1388 packets transmitted, 166 packets received, 88.0% packet loss
> round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 139.421/207.661/5596.991/580.844 ms
> 64 bytes from icmp_seq=1392 ttl=244 time=142.275 ms
> 64 bytes from icmp_seq=1400 ttl=244 time=143.880 ms
> 64 bytes from icmp_seq=1408 ttl=244 time=140.459 ms

Ack! What bad timing.  I just tried to upgrade guile since I didn't
have a whole lot better to do at the moment.  This went and upgraded
readline and libtool for me, but in the process (and without any
warning) it nuked PostgreSQL.  I presume PGSQL needs readline...

Anyway, I think we could improve the package system if it did a little
more than this:

     ===> Deinstalling for readline-4.1
     ===> Becoming to deinstall readline-4.1.
     Running PKG_DBDIR=/var/db/pkg /usr/sbin/pkg_delete -r readline-4.0
     pkg_delete: couldn't entirely delete package (perhaps the packing list is
     incorrectly specified?)
     If you won't be using postgresql-7.0.2 any longer, you may want to
     remove the `pgsql' user and the following directories:
     ===> Validating dependencies for readline-4.1
     => readline-4.1.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist on this system.
     => Attempting to fetch readline-4.1.tar.gz from

It probably wouldn't be such a big deal, (provided 7.1.1 can read
all my 7.0.2 databases without a dump/reload) but the last time I
ran cvs update in /usr/pkgsrc must have been at a bad time, because
now I get this:

     jon@bullbox[759]$ cd /usr/pkgsrc/databases/postgresql ; make install
     ===> Validating dependencies for postgresql-7.1.1
     "Makefile", line 4: Could not find ../../databases/postgresql/Makefile.getopt
     Fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue
     *** Error code 1
     ===> postgresql-7.1.1 cannot build necessary dependencies.
     *** Error code 1
     *** Error code 1

So I guess I'm now really hosed until is reachable again.